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Celebrimbor
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:52 pm
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN
Uh, Felipe, you haven’t judged my entry yet, nor BobtheOrc’s Confused . Thinking of doing that soon?
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:09 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
Finishing yours right now! And if I have time, bto’s will ALSO be online today!
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:53 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
Ok, on to another one! Now, it’s Celebrimbor’s time, and then, only BTO will be missing so we can move along to the next one!
He missed Ally, so he’ll be getting a 0 for it, and he also submitted two companions, so I’ll just drop the second one.

7Thorondor, Mightiest of Eagles Gandalf
Companion Eagle
Strength: 12
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 7
Thorondor takes no more than 1 wound during each skirmish involving him.
Skirmish: If Thorondor is not assigned to a Skirmish, spot Gandalf or a Man to have him replace that companion in his skirmish.
"...Built his eyries in the inaccessible peaks of the Encircling Mountains when Middle-Earth was young."
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 8
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,78

VERY good card for an opener, way to go, Celebrimbor, I expected no less! However,his skirmish ability is WAAAY too powerful, he’s already splashable for lack of spotting requirements, having to spot ONE Man to have him replace him is over the line. Maybe exerting that Man twice, or spotting 3 Men, after all, you WOULD most of the times be saving a companion from certain demise, or winning an otherwise unwinable skirmish.

14Gothmog, High-Chieftain of Angband [Balrog]
Minion Balrog
Strength: 18
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 5
Fierce. Damage +1. Rallying. (When you play this minion, you may exert it to play another character from the same race from your draw deck or discard pile)
Gothmog is twilight cost -1 for each companion that has a shadow token on it.
Each time a possession is played, you may reveal this card from hand to place a shadow token on a companion (except the Ring-bearer).
R+ (Starter Rare is still a Rare, Celebrimbor. I’ll let it slip this time, only lowering your "Rarity" grade, but do not repeat this mistake again, or you’ll get a 0 on the whole card, for exceeding the given quota for the rarity.)

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,88

AMAZING card! Creative-wise as it can get! Creating a whole new culture for Balrogs was a VERY nice idea, which no one explored so far! Not to mention, this card would make it one tasty preview card for a new set! Comeback of The Balrog, a new culture, a new ability and new ways to use tokens, creating generic tokens which’ll be able to be spotted for several cards of several cultures, not to mention the fun it’ll be in a multi-player match! Too bad the rarity thing lowered your grade on this one!

6Oathbreakers of Erech Gondor
Follower
Strength: +10
Vitality: -1
Aid - Add three threats
"Yes, the Dead ride behind. They have been summoned."
Rarity U

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 5
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 7
Abilities: 5
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 5
Consistence: 7
Overall: 7,67

MAJOR issues with this one, it has a RIDICULOUS aid cost for a TREMENDOUS strength boost, WAAAY too overpowered for an uncommon, or even a rare! Such strength should come at a high cost. For instance, if he had the following ability: "At the start of the regroup phase, return this card to your support area and place bearer in the dead pile", THEN it’d be a nice card. You get to win an otherwise unwinable skirmish, get rid of a pesky minion, but still can’t avoid the inevitable, and the character "takes one for the team", following the cue of the wraiths. Also, it should DEFINITELY be a rare.

3Orcrist, Goblin-Cleaver Dwarven
Possession Hand Weapon
Strength: +2
Vitality: +1
Resistance: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf. If bearer is Thorin, each Orc in his skirmish loses all game text (except for title and race).
The goblins of the misty mountains tremble in fear at the very mention of the ancient blade’s name.
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 8
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text:10
Spelling and other Issues: 8
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,56

Another amazing card. Looks like we’ll have tough competition in this Contest! My only problem was the word "Orc" in the ability. Actually, the sword is a GOBLIN cleaver. Now, I know thegame has no Goblins, they just treat them as orcs, so you should’ve limited to Moria and Orc orcs, as they’re the most suited ones.

0The Silmarils of Fëanor Elven
Artifact Silmaril
To play, spot an elf. Plays to your support area.
Each Elf is Resistance +2
Flavor Text
Rarity U

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 5
Twilight Cost: 6
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 7
Consistence: 8
Overall: 8

C’mon, THE Silmarils deserve to be rare, if not R+! Not to mention, it’s global effect’s just too strong for it’s cost!

6 Ride for Ruin! Rohan
Condition Support Area
To play, spot 3 Rohan companions.
At the start of the maneuver phase, you may wound each companion to make this condition a damage +1 Rohan companion that has 10 strength and three vitality that cannot take wounds or bear other cards, until the regroup phase. This card is still a condition.
R+

Card Title: 9
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 8
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 8
Consistence: 8
Overall: 9

Weird. Cool card, but I didn’t like the high vitality one bit! Also, costs too much, after all, it’s painful to activate it, not to mention the spotting requirement! Oh, and it should be unique...

3 We’ll Let Her Do It Gollum
Event
Skirmish: Discard Gollum from play and spot 2 companions with resistance 0 to cancel all skirmishes and assign Shelob to the Ring-bearer (even if his skirmish has already been resolved, there is a new one).
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 8
Consistence: 9
Overall: 9,57

The card is great, but some confusion could arise, unless it has some kind of reminder text, like the one I added.

The One Ring, Ring of Treachery Ring
Strength: +1
Vitality: +1
Resistance: +1
Game Text ???
"A ring of power may slip off treacherously, but its keeper never abandons it."
R+

Card Title: 0
Rarity: 0
Stats: 5
Abilities: 0
Creativity: 0
Spelling and other Issues: 0
Consistence: 0
Overall: 0,71

I’m really sorry, but by no means I can consider this a finished card, so I can’t link title and flavor text to the card without a game text, not to mention this Ring does absolutely nothing, not even adds burdens!

4 Ered Gorgoroth [Site]
Each minion you play at this site gains Rallying (When you play this minion, you may exert it to play another character from the same race from your draw deck or discard pile)
S

Card Title: 8
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Abilities: 6
Creativity: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 6
Consistence: 8
Overall: 8,29

Too powerful. Can you imagine how a swarm would overabuse this site? It should either be an old-school site for the beginning of the path, or the ability should be reduced to the first minion, or have a twilight cost itself.

FINAL GRADE: 7,246

Celebrimbor has proven to be the most creative Contestant so far! I’m very pleased he took part in the Contest! Here’s you gp for this challenge, well deserved! Ok, then, tomorrow, it’s time for bto! Starting on Thursday, this thread is open again for eventual pledges you might have (just remember the pledging rule), and each one will be responded in here, also. Then, on Sunday, I’ll be posting the next challenge!
Last edited by Felipe Musco on Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:00 pm; edited 1 time in totalI don't like YOU.
bobtheorc
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:58 am
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 1218 Location: Wow, its hot in Iowa
i am quaking in my boots on this one...
by pledge do you mean challenge?
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Celebrimbor
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:02 pm
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN
Just a couple Q’s:

R+ (Starter Rare is still a Rare, Celebrimbor. I’ll let it slip this time, only lowering your "Rarity" grade, but do not repeat this mistake again, or you’ll get a 0 on the whole card, for exceeding the given quota for the rarity.)

What does this exactly mean?

Oh, and also what does BTO mean?

EDIT: Sorry, BobtheOrc
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:22 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
Well, the rarity for those cards was "SR", and the closestthing I could associate with these are Starter Rare, meaning those rares that come into pre-constructed decks.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:03 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
Ok, on to the last cards, from bobtheorc! His Ring grade is 0.

2Legolas, Friend to Gimli Elven
Companion • Elf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Archer
Skirmish Exert Legolas to wound a minion skirmishing a Dwarven companion.
“What about side by side with a friend?”
U

Card Title: 9
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 9
Creativity: 7
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 8
Consistence: 9
Overall: 9,11

Cool opener! I personally loved the flavor text. However, I didn’t like the ability very much because of the title of the card. It should either be "Friend to a Dwarf" and keep that ability, or its wording should be "wound a minion skirmishing Gimli".

5Ulaire Attea, Feared Wraith Wraith
Minion • Ringwraith
Strength: 12
Vitality: 3
Site Number: 3
Regroup: Exert Ulaire Attea and discard a card from hand to add a threat.
....Of all of Sauron’s minions the Ringwraiths were the most feared....
U

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 7
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 9
Overall: 9,44

Another cool card! I loved the subtlety between title, ability and flavor text, not to mention lowering its cost was a very nice tough of originality, after all, the card doesn’t do that much. However, I think I miss it being fierce, otherwise, it’s a pretty costly for adding threats at the expense of your hand, and that if he’s wound-free until the regroup phase...

1Lady of Gondor Gondor
Allly • Home 3 [Tower] • Man
Strength: 1
Vitality: 3
Fellowship Exert Lady of Gondor and discard a card from hand to heal a Knight.
”......The Ladies of Gondor wept as they laid out flowers and gifts before the ill fated knights of Lord Faramir....”
U

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 8
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,67

She’s unique, and has only 3 vitality... Should be a common. Also, pretty straightforward ability.

0Great Siege Crossbows Isengard
Condition
Machine. Plays to your support area.
Shadow: Exert an Uruk-hai to place an Isengard token on a machine.
Achery Remove 3 Isengard tokens from this machine to add 1 to the minion archery total (limit 2).
“...The bolts from the crossbows of Saruman caused havoc on the forces of Rohan...”
C

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 8
Twilight Cost: 6
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 9
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9

Now, on the other hand, THIS one should be an uncommon, at least. Not to mention, it should cost AT LEAST 1, after all, it has no spotting requirement, and makes uruk berserkers with Borad-Bladed Sword A BEAST! But GREAT sinergy, very old-school feeling!

2??? Shire
Event • Fellowship
Spot 3 Shire companions to play the fellowships next site (replacing opponent’s site if necessary).
“A hobbit’s size can be helpful in finding a path out of tight situations.”
C

Card Title: 0
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 6
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 6
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 5
Consistence: 7
Overall: 6,75

Well, nothing new here at all. Also, Pathfinder costs 0, even if you wanted to give this card a cost (after all, it HAS a pretty steep spotting requiremente), it should be 1, TOPS! Also, well, a title-less card has some SERIOUS issues, so...

3 Armory of Rohan [Site] 3 [Tower]
At the start of the fellowship phase, you may exert a Rohan man to play a Rohan possession from your discard pile.
“The armory was well stocked... the three hunters found the possessions they required.”
C

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 6
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,38

Again, a remake of existing cards and abilities, without any hint of inovation. Also, I assume you DID want this site to be a one-shot thing, rather than a Fellowship action, so it must have the "may", otherwise, if there’s ANY possession at your discard pile, it’s mandatory that you retrieve it. Another thing, I think this site’d be more useful as a site 5 or 6, although as a site 3, it DOES allow you to discard a possession to try a better Shadow hand for free, so it has its value.

1Seeing Stone of Ithil Sauron
Artifact • Support Area
To play, exert 2 Sauron minions (or spot 3 Sauron minions).
Maneuver: Exert a Sauron orc and discard a card from hand to reveal the Free Peoples hand (limit once per phase). You may then discard a revealed Free Peoples event or condition.
“....Through his Palantir, the stone of Ithil, Sauron caused Denethor to descend into madness....”
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,88

Lot of minor formatting errors, that’s all. Amazing card, really.

0Dwarven Shield Dwarven
Possession • Armor
Vitality: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
The Shadow player may not place wounds or exertions on bearer.
Regroup: Discard this possession to heal bearer.
“The shield of a dwarf protect him from all but the greatest of arrows and blows..”
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 7
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 9
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 7
Consistence: 8
Overall: 9

I just think it costs too little for all the benefits. Also, I think you could’ve gone further on this one, making it a Possession • Shield, and adding the wording "bearer can’t bear more than one hand weapon".

3 Emissary from Dale Gandalf
Follower
Strength: +1
Aid 2
Skirmish If you can spot 3 Gandalf companions, exert bearer twice to discard a minion skirmishing a Gandalf companion.
”..There were also wise men from Dale at the Council of Elrond....”
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 6
Consistence: 8
Overall: 9,33

Two major issues: it’s not unique, making a Gandalf deck a discarding machine, and it should have "(except the Ring-bearer)" after the skirmish ability, otherwise, Ents would be just unbeatable by Swarms. Other than that, pretty nice.

FINAL GRADE: 8,156

Bobtheorc has some MAJOR formatting issues and a few wording issues he has to work on, and is still too "attached" to old concepts, but his cards look fine otherwise. A rightfully-earned gp.

Ok, from here on, thread is open for pledging (and discussion on impressions on the challenge, and such, whatever suits yourselves). Now, before this becomes a mess, here’s how this will work:
1- Find the post containing your cards;
2- Click the "Quote" button;
3- Find the card you’ll be pledging about, and delete everything except for the card, it’s grades and my comments;
4- Write a 5-line-maximum pledge for ONE of the grades, explaining which one you’ll be pledging about, and why.
I’ll get back to them as soon as possible.
PS: Pledging does NOT necessarily means you’ll get a better grade, but it’ll never LOWER a grade. Any Pledge ignoring this format will ALSO be ignored, and the author will lose his pledging rights for this challenge.
Last edited by Felipe Musco on Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:52 pm; edited 1 time in totalI don't like YOU.
Felipe Musco
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:05 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
bobtheorc wrote:
i am quaking in my boots on this one...
by pledge do you mean challenge?


Yeah, pretty much, but you don’t get to just throw the red towel, you have to EXPLAIN why I should change that particular grade.
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thonnas7
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:15 pm
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397 Location: Springfield, OR
Felipe Musco wrote:
Ok, next one up for the massacr... ahem, for the grading is thonnas7. As he submited 2 companions, I simply cut the last one out.

2 Bilbo, Lord of Bag-End Shire
Ally • Home 1F and 3F • Hobbit
Strength: 2
Vitality: 3
Fellowship: Exert Bilbo and add 1 to take a Shire tale into hand from your discard pile.
Rare +

Card Title: 6
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 6
Spelling and other Issues: 7
Consistence: 9
Overall: 8,5

I had only issues with this card’s title, since Bilbo Baggins is not an acceptable title anymore, they’re all named just Bilbo to avoid confusion. Also, I think this one is TOO close to the FotR Bilbo, so that lost some creativity points. The rarity was a BIG upside, after all, it’s a nice catch to put an out-of-context ally as a R+, since it’s an out-of-contest set after all!


Ok, my pledge is fairly straight forward. I believe that the score on Card Title should be upped, as we were suppossed to get the feelings of differen sets. In the early sets, Bilbo Baggins was entitled just that, Bilbo Baggins, it wasn’t until later sets when it was changed. That’s my pledge.
AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:53 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
Quote:
3 Double Vigilance Sauron
Event • Response
If a companion is played, reveal a Sauron Uruk-hai from your hand to exert that companion twice.
"’Nazgûl uneasy. Spies feared on Stairs.’"
Uncommon

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 7
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,5

Didn’t like the flavor text, I don’t think it keys well to the card. Also, one minor issue on formatting: If it’s a Shadow card, then you’re on your Shadow phase, thus, ANY companion played WILL be being played by the Free Peoples Player, too redundant.

I believe that the score for flavor text should be increased. The lore comes directly from the books, when Gorbag and Shagrat are conversing. Shagrat received news that spies were feared on the Stairs, and that they were to have "Double Vigilance". The game text keys off of this - it a companion is played, then the Uruks are to harry him. Everything flows together nicely - the title, the ability, and the lore.

That’s my challenge for the round. Cheers

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