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NBarden
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:19 am
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
DáinIronfoot wrote:
Thranduil wrote:
lem0nhead wrote:
Do not make him any stronger. Thran is right but thats only because he hates thorongil with his 4/10/4/8 stats!!! Id remove the underground bit as it doesnt have a great amount of relevance. Rest of him is cool.

I think Dain is thinking of the Window on the West when he keeps referencing underground sites.

Exactly right. I’m not trying to turn Gondor into an underground-focused culture like, say, Dwarves, but I AM trying to give them a little bit to play with thanks to the cave-dwelling nature of Faramir’s group. Other than Madril, there are 3 conditions and one event that key off Gondorians at underground sites, so it’s not huge, but a fun little theme that could add some new possibilities to Gondor-heavy decks. Maybe a strange ranger/Dwarf combo. Very Happy

Anyway, I tweaked Madril’s site-number-adding ability to a maneuver ability, so it’s a bit more useful. Hopefully the cost and fact that it can only be used once per phase helps balance it out...let me know. I did NOT tweak his stats, as they seem to be about right to me and at least two reviewers.

For now, here are a few Gondor weapons. If these get a few reviews by this afternooon, I’ll post some more possessions. Smile Enjoy!

1 Blade of the South Gondor
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
While skirmishing a roaming minion, bearer is strength +1.
Maneuver: Exert bearer to make a minion site number +2 (or +3 if bearer is a ranger). Limit once per phase.
“All had swords at their sides, and were clad in green and brown of varied hues....”

At the start of the maneuver phase. Cleaner wording. I think its a OP combo with IB, and simply make three exerts to discard a minion.

1 Ithilien Spear Gondor
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +1
Bearer must be a Ring-bound ranger. Bearer gains hunter 1.
While bearer is at a battleground or forest site, he or she is damage +1.
“Four tall Men stood there. Two had spears in their hands with broad bright heads.”

Gondorian Blade anyone? Make ’em gain hunter 2.

1 Ithilien Bow Gondor
Possession • Rangers Weapon
Strength +1
Bearer must be a Gondor hunter.
At the start of the archery phase, you may make bearer lose all hunter bonuses until the regroup phase to make the fellowship archery total +1.
“Arrows were thick in the air.”

I like it, but what if he’s not a hunter? I mean, it says bearer must be a Gondor hunter, but what if he gets it from the Ithilien Spear and then the spear gets discarded? Its a free archery!

Personally, I also think its bordering on OP ness. Imagine this. 4 Ithilien Bow on Allies with the Ithilien Spear and Garrison of Gondor, 4 Elven Bows, Legolas’ Bow, Faramir w/ Bow, Aragorn w/ Bow, Frodo w/ Sting, result, 12base archery per turn + Aragorn’s Bow/Sting combo. I’m thinking that would be fun, but to powerful.


Not quite sure of the wording with that hunter -1 thing. Any other suggestions?
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:48 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
NBarden wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
1 Ithilien Bow Gondor
Possession • Rangers Weapon
Strength +1
Bearer must be a Gondor hunter.
At the start of the archery phase, you may make bearer lose all hunter bonuses until the regroup phase to make the fellowship archery total +1.
“Arrows were thick in the air.”

I like it, but what if he’s not a hunter? I mean, it says bearer must be a Gondor hunter, but what if he gets it from the Ithilien Spear and then the spear gets discarded? Its a free archery!

A valid point. I’ll fix that somehow.

NBarden wrote:
Personally, I also think its bordering on OP ness. Imagine this. 4 Ithilien Bow on Allies with the Ithilien Spear and Garrison of Gondor, 4 Elven Bows, Legolas’ Bow, Faramir w/ Bow, Aragorn w/ Bow, Frodo w/ Sting, result, 12base archery per turn + Aragorn’s Bow/Sting combo. I’m thinking that would be fun, but to powerful.

One problem: how are you going to make a Gondor ally a hunter? There are no Ring-bound allies (and I don’t intend to make any), so they can’t bear Ithilien Spear.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:08 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
DáinIronfoot wrote:


1 Blade of the South Gondor
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
While skirmishing a roaming minion, bearer is strength +1.
Maneuver: Exert bearer to make a minion site number +2 (or +3 if bearer is a ranger). Limit once per phase.
“All had swords at their sides, and were clad in green and brown of varied hues....”
NO NO NO. not a maneuver ability. skirmish. but not manuever. NO IB COMBO!!!

1 Ithilien Spear Gondor
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +1
Bearer must be a Ring-bound ranger. Bearer gains hunter 1.
While bearer is at a battleground or forest site, he or she is damage +1.
“Four tall Men stood there. Two had spears in their hands with broad bright heads.”
cool!

1 Ithilien Bow Gondor
Possession • Rangers Weapon
Strength +1
Bearer must be a Gondor hunter.
At the start of the archery phase, if bearer is a hunter, you may make bearer lose all hunter bonuses until the regroup phase to make the fellowship archery total +1.
“Arrows were thick in the air.”

I wuv it!
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:17 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Alright...I have relented and made Blade of the South bearable by only RB rangers, and adjusted the text to be just a site number +2. I really think it’s balanced enough like that since, as EL pointed out, it takes a boatload of exertions to pull of the IB combo and then leaves you very vulnerable.

As promised, with all the reviews of those cards, here’s a couple more possessions. I would have posted them a bit earlier, but I was waiting on SoP, who’s a bit late today. Tisk tisk. Shame on you

Razz

Anyway, enjoy the cards!

1 Ithilien Cloak Gondor
Possession • Cloak
Resistance +1
Bearer must be a Ring-bound ranger.
Each minion assigned to bearer loses all ambush bonuses until the regroup phase.
Maneuver: If bearer is unwounded and at a sanctuary or forest site, exert bearer to make a minion site number +2 until the regroup phase.
“...their faces were hooded and masked with green, except for their eyes, which were very keen and bright.”

1 Ranger Gauntlets Gondor
Possession • Gauntlets
Bearer must be a Gondor ranger.
Response: If bearer exerts to play a Gondor event (except during the maneuver phase), you may heal him or her (limit once per turn).
Response: If bearer is about to take a wound, add 2 and discard this possession to prevent that wound.
“Green gauntlets covered their hands....”
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:22 pm; edited 5 times in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:23 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
DáinIronfoot wrote:


As promised, with all the reviews of those cards, here’s a couple more possessions. I would have posted them a bit earlier, but I was waiting on SoP, who’s a bit late today. Tisk tisk. Shame on you
my brother had schoolwork on the computer sowwy.
Razz

Anyway, enjoy the cards!
what if I don’t?

1 Ithilien Cloak Gondor
Possession • Cloak
Resistance +1
Bearer must be a Ring-bound ranger.
Each minion skirmishing bearer loses all ambush bonuses.
At the start of each maneuver phase, if bearer is unwounded and at a sanctuary or forest site, you may make a minion site number +2 until the regroup phase.
“...their faces were hooded and masked with green, except for their eyes, which were very keen and bright.”
maneuver phase again tsk tsk...fine be that way Razz

1 Ranger Gauntlets Gondor
Possession • Gauntlets
Bearer must be a Gondor ranger.
Response: If bearer exerts to play a Gondor event, you may heal him or her (limit once per turn).
Response: If bearer is about to take a wound, discard this possession to prevent that wound.
“Green gauntlets covered their hands....”

I can’t think of any. of course I still find new cards from FOTR TTT every now and then...I think it is quite balanced, except the cost should be increased one.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:28 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
sickofpalantirs wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
As promised, with all the reviews of those cards, here’s a couple more possessions. I would have posted them a bit earlier, but I was waiting on SoP, who’s a bit late today. Tisk tisk. Shame on you

my brother had schoolwork on the computer sowwy.

Just teasing you, my friend. Razz I know I can always count on your reviews. Thumbs Up

Oh, and while you’re yelling at your brother, tell him he needs to enter Realms of Middle-earth. I hear he’s quite the RPGer. Smile

As for all this maneuver phase stuff, I don’t intend to do any more, I promise! Angel But I wanted to do a couple, at least, because I can’t let Ithilien Blade completely shut down a phase I think NEEDS some more cards like my Blade of the South and Ithilien Cloak.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
NBarden
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:46 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
DáinIronfoot wrote:
Alright...I have relented and made Blade of the South bearable by only RB rangers, and adjusted the text to be just a site number +2. I really think it’s balanced enough like that since, as EL pointed out, it takes a boatload of exertions to pull of the IB combo and then leaves you very vulnerable.

As promised, with all the reviews of those cards, here’s a couple more possessions. I would have posted them a bit earlier, but I was waiting on SoP, who’s a bit late today. Tisk tisk. Shame on you

Razz

Anyway, enjoy the cards!

1 Ithilien Cloak Gondor
Possession • Cloak
Resistance +1
Bearer must be a Ring-bound ranger.
Each minion skirmishing bearer loses all ambush bonuses.
At the start of each maneuver phase, if bearer is unwounded and at a sanctuary or forest site, you may make a minion site number +2 until the regroup phase.
“...their faces were hooded and masked with green, except for their eyes, which were very keen and bright.”

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is to powerful. Rangers LOVE to control the sitepath, so they can EASILY throw forests all over. And then, suddenly, all your unwounded guys start throwing site numbers up! IB is getting broken again...

1 Ranger Gauntlets Gondor
Possession • Gauntlets
Bearer must be a Gondor ranger.
Response: If bearer exerts to play a Gondor event, you may heal him or her (limit once per turn).
Response: If bearer is about to take a wound, discard this possession to prevent that wound.
“Green gauntlets covered their hands....”

Sure. Defend it and Hope, No Travellers in this Land, and just about any of those exert to wound cards. Especially with four copies out. Suddenly, they become auto-wound events. Also, I don’t like the idea of These are my People combo to grab ALL your Athelas, ALL your Kingsfoil, and NOW grabbing back wound prevention as well.

Oh. And more gadgets for Denethor, LRS. But I think he likes eating Kingsfoil more.

I did my best. Is it sufficient?


Now tell me all the combos that make this card broken. I fully expect someone (probably Mr. Barden) will point out at least one that forces me to change it, but I had to try! Mr. Green
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:18 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
*mumble*grumble*

You’re no fun, NB. But I tweaked them accordingly. Any better now?
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
NBarden
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:29 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Well you asked! Razz

I’m thinking you need more parentheses.

Actually, I think it should just be for toil, personally, because cards that exert for costs usually do that for a good reason. Very Happy
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:50 pm
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DáinIronfoot wrote:


1 Ithilien Cloak Gondor
Possession • Cloak
Resistance +1
Bearer must be a Ring-bound ranger.
Each minion skirmishing bearer loses all ambush bonuses.
At the end of each maneuver phase, if bearer is unwounded and at a sanctuary or forest site, you may make a minion site number +2 until the regroup phase.
“...their faces were hooded and masked with green, except for their eyes, which were very keen and bright.”


It’s alright.

Quote:
1 Ranger Gauntlets Gondor
Possession • Gauntlets
Bearer must be a Gondor ranger.
Response: If bearer exerts to play a Gondor event (except during the maneuver phase), you may heal him or her (limit once per turn).
Response: If bearer is about to take a wound, add 2 and discard this possession to prevent that wound.
“Green gauntlets covered their hands....”


Seems alright to me.
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