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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:26 pm
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DáinIronfoot wrote:

6Gwaihir, King of All Birds Green
Ally • Home 5 [LA] & 8 [LA] • Eagle
Strength: 11
Vitality: 4
Unhasty. Damage +1.
Each time the fellowship moves, add 1.
Assignment: Exert your Wizard or discard 3 cards from hand to allow Gwaihir to be assigned to a skirmish.
Maneuver: Exert Gwaihir twice (or once if you can spot a Nazgûl or 3 Orcs) to make all Eagles strength +1 until the regroup phase (limit twice per turn).
“The Lord of the Eagles of the Misty Mountains had eyes that could look at the sun unblinking, and could see a rabbit moving on the ground a mile below even in the moonlight.”
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6Gwaihir, Lord of the Eagles Green
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 11
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Damage +1. To play, discard 2 Green or Gandalf cards from hand (or spot 3 Green or Gandalf cards).
Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -1 for each Wizard companion and Eagle you can spot.
While at a battleground, forest, or mountain site, each minion skirmishing an Eagle loses fierce and cannot gain fierce until the regroup phase.
“‘What’s all this uproar in the forest tonight?’”

IMO overpowered. cut the twilight minusing text.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:39 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
sickofpalantirs wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
6Gwaihir, Lord of the Eagles Green
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 11
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Damage +1. To play, discard 2 Green or Gandalf cards from hand (or spot 3 Green or Gandalf cards).
Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -1 for each Wizard companion and Eagle you can spot.
While at a battleground, forest, or mountain site, each minion skirmishing an Eagle loses fierce and cannot gain fierce until the regroup phase.
“‘What’s all this uproar in the forest tonight?’”

IMO overpowered. cut the twilight minusing text.

How about if I raise his cost back up to 7 as was suggested earlier?
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:40 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
sickofpalantirs wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
4Aeglirnen, Misty Mountain Eagle Green
Ally • Home 5 [LA] • Eagle
Strength: 8
Vitality: 4
While you can spot another Eagle ally, Aeglirnen gains that ally’s home sites.
Response: If a minion is rescued, Aeglirnen is strength +4 and may be assigned to skirmishes until the end of the turn.
“He had just strength to wonder what the messenger had meant by ‘prisoners,’ and to begin to think of being torn up for supper like a rabbit, when his own turn came. The eagle came back, seized him in his talons by the back of his coat, and swooped off.”

make it captured or rescued IMO

I’d be worried about him being overpowered then, since most capturing would be done by you, the Free Peoples player. You could then plan on capturing just one minion each turn and have Aeglirnen flying around at 12 strength and skirmishing at EVERY site. That’s a bit much, methinks.
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Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:08 pm
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
DáinIronfoot wrote:
2Galion, King’s Butler Green
Ally • Home 7 [LA] • Elf
Strength: 4
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
To play, spot Thranduil or a Green Elf companion.
Fellowship: Exert Galion to play a Green possession from your draw deck. If that possession is Dorwinian Wine, you may place a token on it.
“‘You began your feasting early and muddled your wits! You have stacked some full casks here instead of the empty ones, if there is anything in weight.’”


I never have been too fond of allies (I believe followers are more effective replacements), but this one certainly works. The specificity works well here.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
2Dorwinian Wine Green
Possession • Support Area
When you play this possession, place a Green token here for each Elf you can spot (limit 3).
Response: If a companion is about to exert, you may add 1 and remove a token from here to place no token for that exertion.
Regroup: Discard this possession to heal X companions, where X is the number of tokens on this possession.
“‘Now come with me and taste the new wine that has just come in. I shall be hard at work tonight clearing the cellars of the empty wood, so let us have a drink first to help the labour.’”


Interesting. Works well with and Legolas and Legolas’ Bow. His first exertion is healed and then this possession can prevent the next one. Nifty.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
3Belówen, Elven Guard Green
Companion • Elf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
Skirmish: If Belówen is not assigned to a skirmish, exert him to capture a wounded minion not assigned to a skirmish.
“Then the Wood-elves had come to him, and bound him, and carried him away.”


Kills swarm. Neat.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
3Lianna, Mirkwood Adventurer Green
Companion • Elf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 7
Ranger.
While at a forest, river, or plains site, Lianna gains hunter 2.
While bearing a hand weapon, Lianna is strength +1.
While bearing a ranged weapon, Lianna is an archer.
She was a respected and feared warrior in the Elvenking’s army, noted for her independent streak.


First ability should read: "While the fellowship is at a river, forest, or plains site, Lianna gains hunter 2."

DáinIronfoot wrote:
2 Woodland Elf-Guard Green
Companion • Elf
Strength: 4
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
This companion is strength +1 for each captured minion in your support area.
Response: If this companion wins a skirmish, exert him and another Green Elf to capture a minion in that skirmish.
“Then the elves put thongs on him, and shut him in one of the inmost caves with strong wooden doors, and left him.”


Awesome! Thumbs Up


DáinIronfoot wrote:
2 Mirkwood Guardian Green
Companion • Elf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1. To play, spot a Green Elf.
While you can spot another Green ranger, this companion is a ranger.
While you can spot another Green hunter, this companion gains hunter 1.
While you can spot 2 other Green archers, this companion is an archer.
“If they have a fault it is distrust of strangers.”


Good. Well costed.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
0 Hospitality of the Elves Green
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot a Green Elf.
Regroup: Exert 2 Elves to heal a companion (or heal a companion twice if at a forest sanctuary or forest dwelling).
“They gave him food and drink, plenty of both, if not very fine; for Wood-elves were not goblins, and were reasonably well-behaved even to their worst enemies....”


Should specify that it originally heals the companion once.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
2 Battle About To Be Joined Green
Event • Archery or Skirmish
Discard a Green weapon and a captured minion with X vitality in your support area to make X Green Elves strength +1 until the regroup phase (or, if you discarded a ranged weapon, make the fellowship archery total +X).
“‘Suddenly without a signal they sprang silently forward to attack. Bows twanged and arrows whistled....’”


I think it would be best worded as: "Discard a Green weapon and a captured minion in your support area with X vitality..."

DáinIronfoot wrote:
2Legolas, Thranduilion Green
Companion • Elf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Signet: Frodo
Archer. Hunter 1.
Archery: Exert Legolas and discard a card from hand to exert a minion (or wound an archer minion and make the minion archery total -1); Legolas does not add to the fellowship archery total.
“Stringing the bow and fitting an arrow he turned, peering back over the River into the darkness....”


Sort of like a toned down Legolas, Greenleaf but with its own twist. Neat. Smile

DáinIronfoot wrote:
2 •Legolas’ Bow, Woodland Bow Green
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Strength +1
Bearer must be an Elf.
Bearer is an archer.
Archery: If bearer is Legolas, exert him and discard a Green or Elven archery event with a twilight cost of [b](X) from hand to exert a minion X times; he does not add to the fellowship archery total.
“At that moment there was a sharp twang. Legolas had loosed his bow.”


Ooh. This certainly has a lot of potential.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
6 •Gwaihir, King of All Birds Green
Ally • Home 5 [LA] & 8 [LA] • Eagle
Strength: 11
Vitality: 4
Unhasty. Damage +1.
Each time the fellowship moves, add 1.
Assignment: Exert your Wizard or discard 3 cards from hand to allow Gwaihir to be assigned to a skirmish.
Maneuver: Exert Gwaihir twice (or once if you can spot a Nazgûl or 3 Orcs) to make all Eagles strength +1 until the regroup phase (limit twice per turn).
“The Lord of the Eagles of the Misty Mountains had eyes that could look at the sun unblinking, and could see a rabbit moving on the ground a mile below even in the moonlight.”


I would prefer to keep Gwaihir in the Gandalf culture, but I don’t necessarily mind him in the Green culture. Expensive for an ally, though; perhaps reduce the cost by 1? Also, instead of "all Eagles," I’d make it: "...each Eagle..."

DáinIronfoot wrote:
6 •Gwaihir, Lord of the Eagles Green
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 11
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Damage +1. To play, discard 2 Green or Gandalf cards from hand (or spot 3 Green or Gandalf cards).
Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -1 for each Wizard companion and Eagle you can spot.
While at a battleground, forest, or mountain site, each minion skirmishing an Eagle loses fierce and cannot gain fierce until the regroup phase.
“‘What’s all this uproar in the forest tonight?’”


Nice. My only suggestion is to reword it as: "Gwaihir is twilight cost -1..."

DáinIronfoot wrote:
4Aeglirnen, Misty Mountain Eagle Green
Ally • Home 5 [LA] • Eagle
Strength: 8
Vitality: 4
While you can spot another Eagle ally, Aeglirnen gains that ally’s home sites.
Response: If a minion is rescued, Aeglirnen is strength +4 and may be assigned to skirmishes until the end of the turn.
“He had just strength to wonder what the messenger had meant by ‘prisoners,’ and to begin to think of being torn up for supper like a rabbit, when his own turn came. The eagle came back, seized him in his talons by the back of his coat, and swooped off.”


Sweet!

DáinIronfoot wrote:
4Reviaur, Eagle Escort Green
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
To play, spot a Wizard or 2 Eagles (or Gwaihir).
While at an underground site, Reviaur is unhasty.
Assignment: Exert Reviaur to prevent him from being assigned to a skirmish and make another unmounted companion strength +4 and considered to be mounted until the regroup phase.
“‘It is a fair morning with little wind. What is finer than flying?’”


Just a few notes. Add "spot" before Gwaihir to make the text flow effectively. The second line should be worded as: "While the fellowship is at an underground site..." And I love the assignment ability! Definitely GP for one of the most creative abilities ever!
DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:48 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Made those recommended changes, MoS. Thanks! GP

Dáin’s DC Duos #87

Before we move on to the last couple Eagles, here’s a pair of strength pumps for the great birds...though admittedly, the second one is far from Eagle-specific. Enjoy!

1 Huge Black Shadows Green
Event • Skirmish
Exert an Eagle to make it strength +1 for each Eagle you spot (limit +4).
“Over them swooped the eagles; the dark rush of their beating wings smote them to the floor or drove them far away; their talons tore at goblin faces.”

2 The Clouds Burst Green
Event • Skirmish
Exert a non-Green companion to make him or her strength +1 for each Green companion you can spot (limit +4).
“The clouds were torn by the wind, and a red sunset slashed the West. Seeing the sudden gleam in the gloom Bilbo looked round. He gave a great cry: he had seen a sight that made his heart leap, dark shapes small yet majestic against the distant glow.”
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:20 pm; edited 3 times in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:19 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
DáinIronfoot wrote:
4Aeglirnen, Misty Mountain Eagle Green
Ally • Home 5 [LA] • Eagle
Strength: 8
Vitality: 4
While you can spot another Eagle ally, Aeglirnen gains that ally’s home sites.
Response: If a minion is rescued, Aeglirnen is strength +4 and may be assigned to skirmishes until the end of the turn.
“He had just strength to wonder what the messenger had meant by ‘prisoners,’ and to begin to think of being torn up for supper like a rabbit, when his own turn came. The eagle came back, seized him in his talons by the back of his coat, and swooped off.”

You need to change the response ability to:

Each time a minion is rescued, you may make Aeglirnen strength +4 and able to be assigned to skirmishes until the end of the turn.

Also, for the first ability, does he steal every Eagle’s home site? It seems like it could be interpreted either way.

Definitely a cool idea though. GP

DáinIronfoot wrote:
4Reviaur, Eagle Escort Green
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
To play, spot a Wizard or 2 Eagles (or spot Gwaihir).
While the fellowship is at an underground site, Reviaur is unhasty.
Assignment: Exert Reviaur to prevent him from being assigned to a skirmish and make another unmounted companion strength +4 and considered to be mounted until the regroup phase.
“‘It is a fair morning with little wind. What is finer than flying?’”

That seems like a really powerful ability, since you can use it multiple times (although it has to be on multiple companions). You might want to say ’At the start of the assignment phase, you may exert Reviaur...".

DáinIronfoot wrote:
1 Huge Black Shadows Green
Event • Skirmish
Make an Eagle strength +X, where X is the number of Eagles you can spot (limit +4).
“Over them swooped the eagles; the dark rush of their beating wings smote them to the floor or drove them far away; their talons tore at goblin faces.”

Cool, I would just change the wording to "Make an Eagle strength +1 for each Eagle you spot (limit +4)" to follow in the line of cards like Roused.
DáinIronfoot wrote:
2 The Clouds Burst Green
Event • Skirmish
Make a non-Green companion strength +1 for each Green companion you can spot (limit +4).
“The clouds were torn by the wind, and a red sunset slashed the West. Seeing the sudden gleam in the gloom Bilbo looked round. He gave a great cry: he had seen a sight that made his heart leap, dark shapes small yet majestic against the distant glow.”

Cool!

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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:27 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
AnxiousChieftain wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
4Aeglirnen, Misty Mountain Eagle Green
Ally • Home 5 [LA] • Eagle
Strength: 8
Vitality: 4
While you can spot another Eagle ally, Aeglirnen gains that ally’s home sites.
Response: If a minion is rescued, Aeglirnen is strength +4 and may be assigned to skirmishes until the end of the turn.
“He had just strength to wonder what the messenger had meant by ‘prisoners,’ and to begin to think of being torn up for supper like a rabbit, when his own turn came. The eagle came back, seized him in his talons by the back of his coat, and swooped off.”

You need to change the response ability to:

Each time a minion is rescued, you may make Aeglirnen strength +4 and able to be assigned to skirmishes until the end of the turn.

Done.

AnxiousChieftain wrote:
Also, for the first ability, does he steal every Eagle’s home site? It seems like it could be interpreted either way.

That’s what it’s supposed to do, yes. Any suggestions on how to reword it?

AnxiousChieftain wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
4Reviaur, Eagle Escort Green
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
To play, spot a Wizard or 2 Eagles (or spot Gwaihir).
While the fellowship is at an underground site, Reviaur is unhasty.
Assignment: Exert Reviaur to prevent him from being assigned to a skirmish and make another unmounted companion strength +4 and considered to be mounted until the regroup phase.
“‘It is a fair morning with little wind. What is finer than flying?’”

That seems like a really powerful ability, since you can use it multiple times (although it has to be on multiple companions). You might want to say ’At the start of the assignment phase, you may exert Reviaur...".

Got it.

AnxiousChieftain wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
1 Huge Black Shadows Green
Event • Skirmish
Make an Eagle strength +X, where X is the number of Eagles you can spot (limit +4).
“Over them swooped the eagles; the dark rush of their beating wings smote them to the floor or drove them far away; their talons tore at goblin faces.”

Cool, I would just change the wording to "Make an Eagle strength +1 for each Eagle you spot (limit +4)" to follow in the line of cards like Roused.

Done. Question, though: should I exert the Eagle like Roused does to the Ent?
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:36 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
DáinIronfoot wrote:
AnxiousChieftain wrote:
Also, for the first ability, does he steal every Eagle’s home site? It seems like it could be interpreted either way.

That’s what it’s supposed to do, yes. Any suggestions on how to reword it?

Maybe this: "Aeglirnen gains each home site of each Eagle ally."

DáinIronfoot wrote:
AnxiousChieftain wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
1 Huge Black Shadows Green
Event • Skirmish
Make an Eagle strength +X, where X is the number of Eagles you can spot (limit +4).
“Over them swooped the eagles; the dark rush of their beating wings smote them to the floor or drove them far away; their talons tore at goblin faces.”

Cool, I would just change the wording to "Make an Eagle strength +1 for each Eagle you spot (limit +4)" to follow in the line of cards like Roused.

Done. Question, though: should I exert the Eagle like Roused does to the Ent?

Yeah, I think that’d be a good idea, since the Eagles seem to have around the same stats as Ents.

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NBarden
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:43 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
DáinIronfoot wrote:
Made those recommended changes, MoS. Thanks! GP

Dáin’s DC Duos #87

Before we move on to the last couple Eagles, here’s a pair of strength pumps for the great birds...though admittedly, the second one is far from Eagle-specific. Enjoy!

1 Huge Black Shadows Green
Event • Skirmish
Make an Eagle strength +1 for each Eagle you spot (limit +4).
“Over them swooped the eagles; the dark rush of their beating wings smote them to the floor or drove them far away; their talons tore at goblin faces.”

Nice.

2 The Clouds Burst Green
Event • Skirmish
Make a non-Green companion strength +1 for each Green companion you can spot (limit +4).
“The clouds were torn by the wind, and a red sunset slashed the West. Seeing the sudden gleam in the gloom Bilbo looked round. He gave a great cry: he had seen a sight that made his heart leap, dark shapes small yet majestic against the distant glow.”

Eh? Basically perfect for the splash...Kinda powerful. I’d make it exert...at least.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:26 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Okay, I made changes as you both recommended. Thanks, AC and NB!

One more Duo before I call it a day. I really want to finish off Mirkwood by the end of tomorrow and move on!

Dáin’s DC Duos #88

Since the Eagles are a pretty small subculture, I tried to make them versatile and Swiss-Army-knife-ish. Here’s a couple cards that hopefully demonstrate this. Enjoy!

2 Keen Sight Green
Event • Fellowship or Regroup
If the fellowship is at any site 5 or above, spot an Eagle to examine a player’s adventure deck. Then you may play the fellowship’s next site from either your adventure deck or that player’s adventure deck (replacing opponent’s site if necessary).
“But eagles have keen eyes and can see small things at a great distance.”

1 Long Suspicion Green
Condition • Support Area
Each time a minion or Shadow condition with a twilight cost of (X) is played, you may exert X Eagles to return that card to its owner’s hand.
“...from their watchfulness the movements in the mountains could not be altogether hid.”
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:35 pm; edited 2 times in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!

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