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BattleWarg |
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:37 pm |
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Thranduil wrote: And BattleWarg, the issue is reminding you of your namesake! The wargs in RoS said ’bearer must be strength X or less’ but they added strength to the bearer. The logical decision is (though I don’t believe decipher has ever confirmed this) that such things apply only when played, so you would not have to discard a  possession on a  guy if he suddenly lost the  culture.
No... I think something before that...
For Servitude:
Does it replace one of your minion’s cultures with another character’s culture?
Might I suggest a different wording?
Spot your minion and another character to remove all cultures from that minion and replace them with each culture from that character until the end of the regroup phase.
I like the effect, although I’m not sure how useful it is. For cross culture minions, especially Orcs (or Gollum), it would be a lot more useful than (for example) Nazgul...
But, I suppose that’s how it should be. So good.
Gandalf, Messenger from Valinor... Higher strength and an additional culture for any text... Honestly, if it was anyone else, it might be slightly overpowered to very overpowered. But Gandalf, the Wizard would only be able to use cards that reference a [any culture] companion.
(reasoning is that a 9 strength Gandalf with only culture has drawbacks - of course, with one companion you can spot 2 cultures, soit’s a slight drawback for playing anti-rainbow decks...)
I like Gandalf’s Favour, and would mostly be useful for and decks... which seems like it makes sense.
Also, I had a thought for a card, if you don’t mind... (Probably and/or and/or something else - Response event or response ability on a condition that allows you to copy an event played by the Free Peoples player. Possibly skirmish only...) |
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Thranduil |
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:01 pm |
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BattleWarg wrote: Spot your minion and another character to remove all cultures from that minion and replace them with each culture from that character until the end of the regroup phase.
Could work. I might change it.
BattleWarg wrote: Gandalf, Messenger from Valinor... Higher strength and an additional culture for any text... Honestly, if it was anyone else, it might be slightly overpowered to very overpowered. But Gandalf, the  Wizard would only be able to use cards that reference a [any culture] companion.
I’m not sure I quite understand your point, but, in answer to what I think you might be saying, Gandalf, Messenger from Valinor will still be affected by cards that reference wizard, though obviously for his other cultures he wouldn’t count his race.
BattleWarg wrote: Also, I had a thought for a card, if you don’t mind... (Probably  and/or  and/or something else - Response event or response ability on a condition that allows you to copy an event played by the Free Peoples player. Possibly skirmish only...)
Why would I mind? This is a dream cards forum, isn’t it? Interesting idea, I’ll give it some thought.
Talking about the practical differences between race and culture, check this out:
●Smeagol, Stoor of the Vale
Companion
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Ring-bound.
To play, exert a character.
Maneuver: Exert Smeagol to make him gain ’Hobbit’ until the end of the turn.
●Barliman Butterbur, Friend to Gandalf
Follower
Res: +2
Aid -
To play, spot Gandalf.
Bearer gains the culture.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Hobbit, you may remove a burden.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Man, you may heal him or her.
Strong Defences
Event ● Maneuver
Exert a character to wound a minion X times where X is the number of cultures that minion has.
That last one is part of a cycle of free peoples events, by the way, but that’s probably my favourite. Combining it with Alliance is just funny and cruel!
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Thranduil |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:41 pm |
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Fine! If you’re not going to review my cards, I’ll have to post some more then!
Let’s continue the theme I began with Dunlending rags:
●Desert Robes
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Southron, each Man gains ’Southron’ and the culture, and each Southron gains the culture.
Maneuver: Spot 2 Southrons and discard this possession to add .
U
●Easterling Armor
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Easterling, each Man gains ’Easterling’ and the culture, and each Easterling gains the culture.
Skirmish: Discard this possession and exert an Easterling to add a burden.
U
●Corsair Ships
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Corsair, each and Man gains ’Corsair’, each token gains the culture and each token gains the culture.
Regroup: Spot a Corsair and discard this possession to reinforce 2 or tokens.
U
●Trolls’ Chains
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an minion, each Troll gains the culture.
While you can spot a minion, each Troll gains the culture.
While you can spot a minion, each Troll gains the culture.
U
And to go with the last one because I like it:
Troll of the Shadow
Minion ● Troll
Str: 14
Vit: 4
Sit: 4
Fierce.
If this minion is culture, it gains ’Besieger’.
If this minion is culture, its twilight cost is -2 at an underground site.
Enjoy.
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DáinIronfoot |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:52 pm |
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Thranduil wrote:  ●Smeagol, Stoor of the Vale
Companion
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Ring-bound.
To play, exert a  character.
Maneuver: Exert Smeagol to make him gain ’Hobbit’ until the end of the regroup phase.
Neat idea.
Thranduil wrote:  ●Barliman Butterbur, Friend to Gandalf
Follower
Res: +2
Aid -
To play, spot Gandalf.
Bearer gains the  culture.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Hobbit, you may remove a burden.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Man, you may heal them.
I think it should be "...you may heal that Man", or at least "him or her".
Very interesting idea.
Thranduil wrote:  Strong Defences
Event ● Maneuver
Exert a  character to wound a minion X times where X is the number of cultures that minion has.
Yeah, that would be wicked with cards like yours.
Thranduil wrote:  ●Desert Robes
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Southron, each  Man gains ’Southron’ and the  culture, and each Southron gains the  culture.
Maneuver: Spot 2 Southrons and discard this possession to add  .
U
Neat!
Thranduil wrote:  ●Easterling Armor
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Easterling, each  Man gains ’Easterling’ and the  culture, and each Easterling gains the  culture.
Skirmish: Discard this possession and exert an Easterling to add a burden.
U
Ditto here.
Thranduil wrote:  ●Corsair Ships
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Corsair, each  and  Man gains ’Corsair’, each  token gains the  culture and each  token gains the  culture.
Regroup: Spot a Corsair and discard this possession to reinforce 2  or  tokens.
U
Yep.
Thranduil wrote:  ●Trolls’ Chains
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an  minion, each Troll gains the  culture.
While you can spot a  minion, each Troll gains the  culture.
While you can spot a  minion, each Troll gains the  culture.
U
I think I’d leave out the one. I understand why it’s there, but the combos that would allow would be crazy.
Thranduil wrote:  Troll of the Shadow
Minion ● Troll
Str: 14
Vit: 4
Sit: 4
Fierce.
If this minion is  culture, it gains ’Besieger’.
If this minion is  culture, its twilight cost is -2 at an underground site.
I’m torn. I love the text that goes with this, but I still feel strongly about not allowing any old Troll to be a Troll. If you can find some way to make just this guy a minion, I’d be okay with that. |
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sickofpalantirs |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:54 pm |
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Thranduil wrote:
 ●Smeagol, Stoor of the Vale
Companion
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Ring-bound.
To play, exert a  character.
Maneuver: Exert Smeagol to make him gain ’Hobbit’ until the end of the regroup phase.
the race hobbit. make it end of the turn
 ●Barliman Butterbur, Friend to Gandalf
Follower
Res: +2
Aid -
To play, spot Gandalf.
Bearer gains the  culture.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Hobbit, you may remove a burden.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Man, you may heal them.
heal him not them.
 Strong Defences
Event ● Maneuver
Exert a  character to wound a minion X times where X is the number of cultures that minion has.
cool. |
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sickofpalantirs |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:57 pm |
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Thranduil wrote: Fine! If you’re not going to review my cards, I’ll have to post some more then!
if you want reviews PM me with the url of your thread, and they will get reviewed
 ●Desert Robes
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Southron, each  Man gains ’Southron’ and the  culture, and each Southron gains the  culture.
Maneuver: Spot 2 Southrons and discard this possession to add  .
U
the southron should be bolded methinks.
 ●Easterling Armor
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Easterling, each  Man gains ’Easterling’ and the  culture, and each Easterling gains the  culture.
Skirmish: Discard this possession and exert an Easterling to add a burden.
U
ditto
 ●Corsair Ships
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Corsair, each  and  Man gains ’Corsair’, each  token gains the  culture and each  token gains the  culture.
Regroup: Spot a Corsair and discard this possession to reinforce 2  or  tokens.
U
and ditto
 ●Trolls’ Chains
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an  minion, each Troll gains the  culture.
While you can spot a  minion, each Troll gains the  culture.
While you can spot a  minion, each Troll gains the  culture.
U
nice!
 Troll of the Shadow
Minion ● Troll
Str: 14
Vit: 4
Sit: 4
Fierce.
If this minion is  culture, it gains ’Besieger’.
If this minion is  culture, its twilight cost is -2 at an underground site.
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Thranduil |
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:25 pm |
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sickofpalantirs wrote: Thranduil wrote: Fine! If you’re not going to review my cards, I’ll have to post some more then!
if you want reviews PM me with the url of your thread, and they will get reviewed
Thanks sop, I knew I could always depend on you!
Dain, which combos in particular are you thinking about? And what are your issues with Trolls?
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Thranduil |
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:17 pm |
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Time for some slightly weird (but funky) free peoples cards:
●Pippin, Knight of Gondor
Companion ● Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Knight.
Skirmish: Exert a Man to make Pippin strength +3.
●Merry, Squire of Rohan
Companion ● Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Valiant.
Skirmish: Exert a Man to make Merry strength +3.
Armor of Gondor
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 companions and exert bearer to make them gain the culture, and either Knight or Ranger until the end of the regroup phase.
Mail of Rohan
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 companions and exert bearer to make them gain the culture and Valiant until the end of the regroup phase.
Garb of the Shire
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 companions and exert bearer to make them gain the culture and resistance +2 until the end of the regroup phase.
Dwarven Mail
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 companions and exert bearer to make them gain the culture and damage +1 until the end of the regroup phase.
Elven Mail
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 companions and exert bearer to make them gain the culture and hunter 1 until the end of the regroup phase.
Master
Condition
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot Smeagol or Gollum and exert bearer to make them gain the culture and Ring-bound until the end of the regroup phase.
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sickofpalantirs |
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:23 pm |
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Thranduil wrote: Time for some slightly weird (but funky) free peoples cards:
 ●Pippin, Knight of Gondor
Companion ● Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Knight.
Skirmish: Exert a  Man to make Pippin strength +3.
give him 2 cost and 5 strength
 ●Merry, Squire of Rohan
Companion ● Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Valiant.
Skirmish: Exert a  Man to make Merry strength +3.
ditto
 Armor of Gondor
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3  companions and exert bearer to make them gain the  culture, and either Knight or Ranger until the end of the regroup phase.
sweet! but overcosted drop cost to 1
 Mail of Rohan
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3  companions and exert bearer to make them gain the  culture and Valiant until the end of the regroup phase.
ditto
 Garb of the Shire
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3  companions and exert bearer to make them gain the  culture and resistance +2 until the end of the regroup phase.
ditto
 Dwarven Mail
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3  companions and exert bearer to make them gain the  culture and damage +1 until the end of the regroup phase.
this one is fine because it gives a loaded keyword
 Elven Mail
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3  companions and exert bearer to make them gain the  culture and hunter 1 until the end of the regroup phase.
make it elven leather or something. cool!
 Master
Condition
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot Smeagol or Gollum and exert bearer to make them gain the  culture and Ring-bound until the end of the regroup phase.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:46 pm |
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I thought about making them cost , but I wasn’t sure.
I defend my pricings of the items as follows:
It’s much better to be or companion than it is to be a , or companion because many and cards say or companion, and they’re both normally the same race so you can make , or Men count for most of their other stuff as well. But, for the others, most cards will say ’Elf’, ’Dwarf’ or ’Hobbit’, so gaining the culture is often useless. That’s why I kept the same cost for loaded and unloaded keywords.
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