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BattleWarg
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:37 pm
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location:
Thranduil wrote:
And BattleWarg, the issue is reminding you of your namesake! The wargs in RoS said ’bearer must be strength X or less’ but they added strength to the bearer. The logical decision is (though I don’t believe decipher has ever confirmed this) that such things apply only when played, so you would not have to discard a Rohan possession on a Gondor guy if he suddenly lost the Rohan culture.

No... I think something before that...


For Servitude:

Does it replace one of your minion’s cultures with another character’s culture?

Might I suggest a different wording?
Spot your minion and another character to remove all cultures from that minion and replace them with each culture from that character until the end of the regroup phase.

I like the effect, although I’m not sure how useful it is. For cross culture minions, especially Orcs (or Gollum), it would be a lot more useful than (for example) Wraith Nazgul...

But, I suppose that’s how it should be. So good.


Gandalf, Messenger from Valinor... Higher strength and an additional culture for any text... Honestly, if it was anyone else, it might be slightly overpowered to very overpowered. But Gandalf, the Gandalf Wizard would only be able to use cards that reference a [any culture] companion.

(reasoning is that a 9 strength Gandalf with only Gandalf culture has drawbacks - of course, with one companion you can spot 2 cultures, soit’s a slight drawback for playing anti-rainbow decks...)


I like Gandalf’s Favour, and would mostly be useful for Gondor and Rohan decks... which seems like it makes sense.


Also, I had a thought for a card, if you don’t mind... (Probably Isengard and/or Sauron and/or something else - Response event or response ability on a condition that allows you to copy an event played by the Free Peoples player. Possibly skirmish only...)
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Thranduil
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:01 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
BattleWarg wrote:
Spot your minion and another character to remove all cultures from that minion and replace them with each culture from that character until the end of the regroup phase.

Could work. I might change it.

BattleWarg wrote:
Gandalf, Messenger from Valinor... Higher strength and an additional culture for any text... Honestly, if it was anyone else, it might be slightly overpowered to very overpowered. But Gandalf, the Gandalf Wizard would only be able to use cards that reference a [any culture] companion.

I’m not sure I quite understand your point, but, in answer to what I think you might be saying, Gandalf, Messenger from Valinor will still be affected by cards that reference Gandalf wizard, though obviously for his other cultures he wouldn’t count his race.

BattleWarg wrote:
Also, I had a thought for a card, if you don’t mind... (Probably Isengard and/or Sauron and/or something else - Response event or response ability on a condition that allows you to copy an event played by the Free Peoples player. Possibly skirmish only...)

Why would I mind? This is a dream cards forum, isn’t it? Interesting idea, I’ll give it some thought.

Talking about the practical differences between race and culture, check this out:

0 ●Smeagol, Stoor of the Vale Shire
Companion
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Ring-bound.
To play, exert a Shire character.
Maneuver: Exert Smeagol to make him gain ’Hobbit’ until the end of the turn.

2 ●Barliman Butterbur, Friend to Gandalf Gandalf
Follower
Res: +2
Aid -2
To play, spot Gandalf.
Bearer gains the Gandalf culture.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Hobbit, you may remove a burden.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Man, you may heal him or her.

0 Strong Defences Gondor
Event ● Maneuver
Exert a Gondor character to wound a minion X times where X is the number of cultures that minion has.

That last one is part of a cycle of free peoples events, by the way, but that’s probably my favourite. Combining it with Alliance is just funny and cruel!

Thranduil
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Thranduil
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:41 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Fine! If you’re not going to review my cards, I’ll have to post some more then!

Let’s continue the theme I began with Dunlending rags:

2 ●Desert Robes Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Southron, each Men Man gains ’Southron’ and the Raider culture, and each Southron gains the Men culture.
Maneuver: Spot 2 Southrons and discard this possession to add 3.
U

2 ●Easterling Armor Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Easterling, each Men Man gains ’Easterling’ and the Raider culture, and each Easterling gains the Men culture.
Skirmish: Discard this possession and exert an Easterling to add a burden.
U

2 ●Corsair Ships Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Corsair, each Men and Raider Man gains ’Corsair’, each Men token gains the Raider culture and each Raider token gains the Men culture.
Regroup: Spot a Corsair and discard this possession to reinforce 2 Men or Raider tokens.
U

2 ●Trolls’ Chains Orc
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Orc minion, each Troll gains the Orc culture.
While you can spot a Moria minion, each Troll gains the Moria culture.
While you can spot a Sauron minion, each Troll gains the Sauron culture.
U

And to go with the last one because I like it:

8 Troll of the Shadow Orc
Minion ● Troll
Str: 14
Vit: 4
Sit: 4
Fierce.
If this minion is Sauron culture, it gains ’Besieger’.
If this minion is Moria culture, its twilight cost is -2 at an underground site.

Enjoy.

Thranduil
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:52 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Thranduil wrote:
0 ●Smeagol, Stoor of the Vale Shire
Companion
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Ring-bound.
To play, exert a Shire character.
Maneuver: Exert Smeagol to make him gain ’Hobbit’ until the end of the regroup phase.

Neat idea. Thumbs Up

Thranduil wrote:
2 ●Barliman Butterbur, Friend to Gandalf Gandalf
Follower
Res: +2
Aid -2
To play, spot Gandalf.
Bearer gains the Gandalf culture.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Hobbit, you may remove a burden.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Man, you may heal them.

I think it should be "...you may heal that Man", or at least "him or her".

Very interesting idea.

Thranduil wrote:
0 Strong Defences Gondor
Event ● Maneuver
Exert a Gondor character to wound a minion X times where X is the number of cultures that minion has.

Yeah, that would be wicked with cards like yours. Twisted Evil

Thranduil wrote:
2 ●Desert Robes Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Southron, each Men Man gains ’Southron’ and the Raider culture, and each Southron gains the Men culture.
Maneuver: Spot 2 Southrons and discard this possession to add 3.
U

Neat!

Thranduil wrote:
2 ●Easterling Armor Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Easterling, each Men Man gains ’Easterling’ and the Raider culture, and each Easterling gains the Men culture.
Skirmish: Discard this possession and exert an Easterling to add a burden.
U

Ditto here.

Thranduil wrote:
2 ●Corsair Ships Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Corsair, each Men and Raider Man gains ’Corsair’, each Men token gains the Raider culture and each Raider token gains the Men culture.
Regroup: Spot a Corsair and discard this possession to reinforce 2 Men or Raider tokens.
U

Yep.

Thranduil wrote:
2 ●Trolls’ Chains Orc
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Orc minion, each Troll gains the Orc culture.
While you can spot a Moria minion, each Troll gains the Moria culture.
While you can spot a Sauron minion, each Troll gains the Sauron culture.
U

I think I’d leave out the Moria one. I understand why it’s there, but the combos that would allow would be crazy.

Thranduil wrote:
8 Troll of the Shadow Orc
Minion ● Troll
Str: 14
Vit: 4
Sit: 4
Fierce.
If this minion is Sauron culture, it gains ’Besieger’.
If this minion is Moria culture, its twilight cost is -2 at an underground site.

I’m torn. I love the Moria text that goes with this, but I still feel strongly about not allowing any old Troll to be a Moria Troll. If you can find some way to make just this guy a Moria minion, I’d be okay with that.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:54 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:

0 ●Smeagol, Stoor of the Vale Shire
Companion
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Ring-bound.
To play, exert a Shire character.
Maneuver: Exert Smeagol to make him gain ’Hobbit’ until the end of the regroup phase.
the race hobbit. make it end of the turn

2 ●Barliman Butterbur, Friend to Gandalf Gandalf
Follower
Res: +2
Aid -2
To play, spot Gandalf.
Bearer gains the Gandalf culture.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Hobbit, you may remove a burden.
Each time Barliman Butterbur is transferred to a Man, you may heal them.
heal him not them.

0 Strong Defences Gondor
Event ● Maneuver
Exert a Gondor character to wound a minion X times where X is the number of cultures that minion has.

cool.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:57 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:
Fine! If you’re not going to review my cards, I’ll have to post some more then!
if you want reviews PM me with the url of your thread, and they will get reviewed Wink

2 ●Desert Robes Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Southron, each Men Man gains ’Southron’ and the Raider culture, and each Southron gains the Men culture.
Maneuver: Spot 2 Southrons and discard this possession to add 3.
U
the southron should be bolded methinks.

2 ●Easterling Armor Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Easterling, each Men Man gains ’Easterling’ and the Raider culture, and each Easterling gains the Men culture.
Skirmish: Discard this possession and exert an Easterling to add a burden.
U
ditto

2 ●Corsair Ships Men
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot a Corsair, each Men and Raider Man gains ’Corsair’, each Men token gains the Raider culture and each Raider token gains the Men culture.
Regroup: Spot a Corsair and discard this possession to reinforce 2 Men or Raider tokens.
U
and ditto Wink

2 ●Trolls’ Chains Orc
Possession ● Support Area
While you can spot an Orc minion, each Troll gains the Orc culture.
While you can spot a Moria minion, each Troll gains the Moria culture.
While you can spot a Sauron minion, each Troll gains the Sauron culture.
U
nice!

8 Troll of the Shadow Orc
Minion ● Troll
Str: 14
Vit: 4
Sit: 4
Fierce.
If this minion is Sauron culture, it gains ’Besieger’.
If this minion is Moria culture, its twilight cost is -2 at an underground site.

sweet cards!
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Thranduil
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:25 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
sickofpalantirs wrote:
Thranduil wrote:
Fine! If you’re not going to review my cards, I’ll have to post some more then!
if you want reviews PM me with the url of your thread, and they will get reviewed Wink

Thanks sop, I knew I could always depend on you! Wink

Dain, which combos in particular are you thinking about? And what are your issues with Moria Trolls?

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Thranduil
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:17 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Time for some slightly weird (but funky) free peoples cards:

1 ●Pippin, Knight of Gondor Gondor
Companion ● Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Knight.
Skirmish: Exert a Gondor Man to make Pippin strength +3.

1 ●Merry, Squire of Rohan Rohan
Companion ● Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Valiant.
Skirmish: Exert a Rohan Man to make Merry strength +3.

2 Armor of Gondor Gondor
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Gondor companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Gondor culture, and either Knight or Ranger until the end of the regroup phase.

2 Mail of Rohan Rohan
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Rohan companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Rohan culture and Valiant until the end of the regroup phase.

2 Garb of the Shire Shire
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Shire companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Shire culture and resistance +2 until the end of the regroup phase.

2 Dwarven Mail Dwarven
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Dwarven companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Dwarven culture and damage +1 until the end of the regroup phase.


2 Elven Mail Elven
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Elven companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Elven culture and hunter 1 until the end of the regroup phase.


2 Master Gollum
Condition
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot Smeagol or Gollum and exert bearer to make them gain the Gollum culture and Ring-bound until the end of the regroup phase.

Thranduil
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:23 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:
Time for some slightly weird (but funky) free peoples cards:

1 ●Pippin, Knight of Gondor Gondor
Companion ● Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Knight.
Skirmish: Exert a Gondor Man to make Pippin strength +3.
give him 2 cost and 5 strength

1 ●Merry, Squire of Rohan Rohan
Companion ● Hobbit
Str: 3
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Valiant.
Skirmish: Exert a Rohan Man to make Merry strength +3.
ditto

2 Armor of Gondor Gondor
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Gondor companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Gondor culture, and either Knight or Ranger until the end of the regroup phase.
sweet! but overcosted drop cost to 1

2 Mail of Rohan Rohan
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Rohan companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Rohan culture and Valiant until the end of the regroup phase.
ditto

2 Garb of the Shire Shire
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Shire companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Shire culture and resistance +2 until the end of the regroup phase.
ditto Wink

2 Dwarven Mail Dwarven
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Dwarven companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Dwarven culture and damage +1 until the end of the regroup phase.
this one is fine because it gives a loaded keyword


2 Elven Mail Elven
Possession ● Armor
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot 3 Elven companions and exert bearer to make them gain the Elven culture and hunter 1 until the end of the regroup phase.
make it elven leather or something. cool!


2 Master Gollum
Condition
Bearer must be a companion.
Maneuver: Spot Smeagol or Gollum and exert bearer to make them gain the Gollum culture and Ring-bound until the end of the regroup phase.

nice!
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Thranduil
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:46 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
I thought about making them cost 2, but I wasn’t sure.

I defend my pricings of the items as follows:
It’s much better to be Gondor or Rohan companion than it is to be a Shire, Dwarven or Elven companion because many Gondor and Rohan cards say Gondor or Rohan companion, and they’re both normally the same race so you can make Gandalf, Gondor or Rohan Men count for most of their other stuff as well. But, for the others, most cards will say ’Elf’, ’Dwarf’ or ’Hobbit’, so gaining the culture is often useless. That’s why I kept the same cost for loaded and unloaded keywords.

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