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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:51 am |
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Yes, FP can capture minions.
I don’t see why that would be a problem, though. All I’d have to do is add the "rule" that both FP and Shadow players have to pay the twilight cost of each captured character they want to hold onto; for FP that would mean adding, and for Shadow it would mean removing. Easy enough.
Puts less of an emphasis on resucing, but I guess that’s an okay trade-off for it being more balanced. If you think that will do it...? |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:00 pm |
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No, because it’s no big deal for the Free Peoples player to add more twilight, especially if it’s Sauron or a siege troop or something, because after a load of twilight is already in the pool, it doesn’t matter how much more you put in.
The FP player can just keep adding twilight infinitely with the possibility of the Shadow player being able to exploit that. For the Shadow player to remove that twilight, it makes a BIG difference on what their deck can do.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:03 pm |
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| Okay. What if the adding/removing is done at the start of the maneuver phase? THEN adding twilight makes a big difference. |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:09 pm |
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I would think it makes even less difference.
The minions have already been played, FP events can always be played, regardless of twilight cost, and there is a possibility that the shadow player could play events.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:21 pm |
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Okay, then how about this:
If, at the end of the regroup phase, the fellowship does NOT move to the next site, then at the start of the next turn, the FP player must pay the cost for each captured minion they wish to remain captured at the end of their fellowship phase. The Shadow player must pay the cost for each captured companion/ally they wish to remain captured at the start of their Shadow phase.
If, however, the fellowship moves at the end of the regroup phase, the adding/removing is done right then and there, first by the FP player and then the Shadow player.
Or do you suggest I do this some other way entirely? |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:30 pm |
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In all honesty, I’m not sure what to suggest.
Twilight is the most universal thing you can get. Threats not everyone can deal with, exertions can help enduring guys, burdens possibly, but that skews the mechanic to work better in some decks than others. I can’t think of anything to do apart from twilight, but your way is a little complicated, though possibly fine.
I’ll see what the others have to say before making a serious judgment on this.
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:22 pm |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: I think you should either have the option of holding onto captured characters (at a cost) from turn to turn, OR at least have it last one full turn...perhaps until the start of the next turn’s phase that you capture the character in. For example, if you capture a companion in the maneuver phase, you would hold him until the next turn’s maneuver phase. Make sense?
IMHO this would be best. |
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:08 am |
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sickofpalantirs wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote: I think you should either have the option of holding onto captured characters (at a cost) from turn to turn, OR at least have it last one full turn...perhaps until the start of the next turn’s phase that you capture the character in. For example, if you capture a companion in the maneuver phase, you would hold him until the next turn’s maneuver phase. Make sense?
IMHO this would be best.
So instead of this whole twilight thing, just have them automatically rescued after one full turn has passed?
What are other peoples’ thoughts on this? |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:26 am |
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I prefer the twilight thing, but it might get complicated.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:43 am |
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| Any other opinions on this? I KNOW there were more people that had strong opinions on capturing than just Thranduil and SoP.... |
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