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Do you like Rohan's new "fightin' Frodo" strategy?

Yes  
71%
  [ 10 ]  71%
 
No  
28%
  [ 4 ]  28%
 

Total Votes : 14
corvus
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:09 pm
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Great idea! Very Happy
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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:23 pm
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Good combo, NBarden. Still, though, using your RB to fight seems to go against all logic. Razz
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NBarden
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:36 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
What about solo-smeagol, solo-gimli, solo anything for that matter? Keep an eye out for my solo strategy article, I have a solo Frodo decklist could easily be incorporated into a Rohan deck.

Sudden Fury, anyone? Lose the not-so-critical skirmishes, then win the somewhat-more-critical ones.
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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:22 pm
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I look forward to seeing that article. Cool
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LeoKula
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:47 am
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 479 Location: SP, Brazil
I think the main question here is why put your ring bearer in danger when you can have pretty strong fellowships with other cultures and you do not need to take this risk?

For example, eomer will be like 13 or so with the ring bearer assigned. If aragorn and théoden are in play, then it’s 15, and Éomer is the strongest guy. With dwarves you can get 16 or even more with Durin and Gimli witch is the toughest ring bearer out there, and he doesn’t even need to be fighting... besides that, Durin is still Damage +4 at least, and you have blood runs chill, no pauses no spills, proud and able, lots of strength pumps for the ring bearer ... rohan doesn’t have that cycling neither condition removal and you’ll end up with a 2 culture fellowship that will never be as consistent as a mono culture deck...

The new theoden gives the same strength bonus as the uncommon from shadows, and I think that walking on plains is far easier (and you get several other bonuses) than assigning your ring bearer... there’s also shadows Éowyn, witch combined with shadows Théoden gives amazing strength bonus for a fair cost...

... and the site liberating ability from théoden is useless to say the least... you have Rohan Worker and Sturdy Shield witch are really good cards and liberate sites very consistently...

Just to mention, Noble Leaders decks, Sudden Fury decks and Ent decks fight 10 times stronger than this new rohan build and the ring bearer takes 10 times less risk... so how efficient is that?

I particularly love Rohan, and I’d really like to play this fighting ring bearer deck, but I know there are a lot of better options to have a big fighting fellowship... and even Rohan’s got better options for a strong deck. I see this deck as a very creative one and sure to be very fun to play, but I think it’s time rohan gets something decent to drop it’s second rate status to a top tier culture.
NBarden
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:01 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
LeoKula wrote:
Just to mention, Noble Leaders decks, Sudden Fury decks and Ent decks fight 10 times stronger than this new rohan build and the ring bearer takes 10 times less risk... so how efficient is that?


I beg to differ. Rohan has access to possession discarding, archery, minion wounding, and all that. Noble leaders has what, damage and healing? Maybe a little archery. And Sudden Fury? Rohan’s new decktype is completely safe if played right, and will already be built to deal with Return to its master and a dark shape sprang. And it has built in swarm protection.

And BTW, Solo-Smeagol owns any other deck out there (except maybe IB), and it takes tons of risks with its ring-bearer. Such as throwing him out there alone...
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LeoKula
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:05 am
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NBarden wrote:
LeoKula wrote:
Just to mention, Noble Leaders decks, Sudden Fury decks and Ent decks fight 10 times stronger than this new rohan build and the ring bearer takes 10 times less risk... so how efficient is that?


I beg to differ. Rohan has access to possession discarding, archery, minion wounding, and all that. Noble leaders has what, damage and healing? Maybe a little archery. And Sudden Fury? Rohan’s new decktype is completely safe if played right, and will already be built to deal with Return to its master and a dark shape sprang. And it has built in swarm protection.

And BTW, Solo-Smeagol owns any other deck out there (except maybe IB), and it takes tons of risks with its ring-bearer. Such as throwing him out there alone...


wait a minute, rohan has all this access but you have to choose one to build your deck around, otherwise you’ll have a mess, and not a deck... Gondor as a culture also has access to all of this, but I’m talking about the Noble Leaders build which is a fighting fellowship, because I’m comparing it to the new Rohan strategy which is also about fighting... so lets put aside archery and minion wounding, otherwise we can talk about Gondor Bowmen, Defend it and Hope, Aragorn’s Bow, Faramir’s Bow ... I think none of this is bad at all, is it? Gondor can also discard possessions with derufin and liberate sites with Elendil, the tall and i think they do it better than rohan...

I don’t know exactly what you talk about when you say "built in swarm protection"... there’s only one card to help frodo skirmish that is Where Now The Horse, and it is an event. "built in swarm protection" you have with a hobbit deck because you can use everything you got on the ring bearer too, and besides that you have 2 ring bearers and not just one... with this new rohan strategy you’ll need more than where now the horse, and I don’t see any "built in" aspect on that... you’ll be packing lots of hobbit cards that will work only for the RB... your game just can’t flow well enough compared to a gondor or dwarven deck...

By the way I don’t know why you mentioned solo smeagol... the deck is designed to make smeagol fight and you have 30+ cards on your deck to help him do this LoL ... how many hobbit cards can you pack without compromising the rest of your fellowship’s efficiency?

I think you, like me, like Rohan a lot, but I think we both have to admit that there are just several better choices if we talk about efficiency (not fun Very Happy )
NBarden
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:23 pm
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Eowyn, Northwoman just released. It really pulls this deck together. With this card, Rohan is now a fighting force to be reckoned with.
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corvus
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:04 pm
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NBarden wrote:
Eowyn, Northwoman just released. It really pulls this deck together. With this card, Rohan is now a fighting force to be reckoned with.


Couldn’t have said it better myself. GP’ed.
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:42 pm
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I still don’t think it as quite so good. It is OK, but until there are more ways to benefit. I mean no keywords is OK, but not stunning.
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