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What should be done about the Orc culture?

X-list Orkish Smith  
77%
  [ 14 ]  77%
 
X-list Goblin Hordes  
0%
  [ 0 ]  0%
 
X-list Orkish Lackey  
5%
  [ 1 ]  5%
 
X-list Frenzy of Arrows  
5%
  [ 1 ]  5%
 
X-list Isengard Underling  
5%
  [ 1 ]  5%
 
R-list one of the above (please specify)  
5%
  [ 1 ]  5%
 
Errata one of the above (please specify)  
0%
  [ 0 ]  0%
 
X-list, R-list or errata another [Orc] card (please specify)  
0%
  [ 0 ]  0%
 

Total Votes : 18
lem0nhead
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:23 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
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Frenzy of Arrows gets my vote, for without this card the massive orc archery decks don’t lift off the ground. Cool



Noooooo you ruined the unanimity!!! It has to be the smith first and foremost. Frenzy of arrows is horrible and x-able but its not making every Orc deck out there broken like the smith currently is. Or forced march.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:02 pm
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I went for R-list. I think if GH was R-listed it would help a TON
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legoles3333
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:32 pm
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 861 Location: In a place that is beyond your imagination
ok new plan

Ban
New Gothmag
Forced March

Restrict
Lackey
Smith
Goblin Hordes
Unfogiving Depths

Errata
Frenzy of Arrows
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NBarden
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:40 pm
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Don’t touch Goblin Hordes. That’s a cool card. Its the Smith that makes it OP. If we ban the smith, Goblin Hordes is just another condition that can be discarded. but it won’t be anywhere near as broken. The Orc culture needs Goblin Hordes to work properly.

Orc is overpowered, but we don’t need to swing it from the most broken to the most underpowered.

Not to mention that restricting the Smith would do nothing currently, it needs to be banned. Unless you restrict Goblin Hordes, in which Orc would topple completely.
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AgentDrake
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:51 pm
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I agree with NBarden. To use Goblin Hordes you need to control the sitepath. X-ing the smith would make it alot harder to do that, since you couldn’t pull Unforgiving Depths back as easily, so the Hordes wouldn’t be OP, and neither would most (though certainly not all) of the other Orc cards.

Step 2 would be x-ing Frenzy of Arrows.

I honestly don’t think Gothmog is gonna be a problem.
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NBarden
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:14 pm
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Orc Miscreant. He will be a problem.
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lem0nhead
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:22 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
NBarden wrote:
Orc Miscreant. He will be a problem.


Yeah gothmog is maybe OP but not x-list until you play out orc miscreant. But i agree with legoles in the fact we have to ban the smith and the march. But NB is right hordes is ok without the smith we dont want to swing it to underpowered culture.

Restriction of a card in a broken loop wont help. X THE SMITH! Its the future.
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"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:10 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
AgentDrake wrote:
I agree with NBarden. To use Goblin Hordes you need to control the sitepath. X-ing the smith would make it alot harder to do that, since you couldn’t pull Unforgiving Depths back as easily, so the Hordes wouldn’t be OP, and neither would most (though certainly not all) of the other Orc cards.

Step 2 would be x-ing Frenzy of Arrows.

I honestly don’t think Gothmog is gonna be a problem.


OK I agree with you. you could X-list the miscreant probably without much reverberations.
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