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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:58 am |
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lem0nhead wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote:  Bandolier Harness 
Possession
Bearer must be a Dwarf. Limit one per bearer.
Bearer may bear 1 additional hand weapon, but may only use the bonuses and game text of one hand weapon per skirmish.
Gimli carried his great battle axe from a padded ring set in the back of a bandolier that criss-crossed his shoulders and was attached to his belt.
So you think I should just scrap the idea? Or perhaps make it unique? |
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| lem0nhead |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:09 am |
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| Well as you found with gimli it becomes a phrasing nightmare, i think without the card hand axe you would have been fine but it complicates things. As far as the bandolier goes the "may bear one other weapon" is a nice idea but after then the text goes awry. Id either scrap the card or the entire bearing another weapon idea cos its too hard to phrase. I see what youre getting at its very clear, but D would never have said something like that i dont reckon. Shame it doesnt seem to be quite right as it is a good theme. |
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:12 pm |
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| wouldn’t my wording help the skirmish thing make more sense? |
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:39 pm |
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Alright, well I’ll have to figure out what to do with the harness...I may end up just scrapping it. I like things about SoP’s suggested wording, but it completely changes what I was going for.
Ooo, ooo...how about this?
Bandolier Harness
Possession
Bearer must be a Dwarf. Limit 1 per bearer.
At the start of each assignment phase, you may exchange a hand weapon borne by bearer for a hand weapon from your hand.
Gimli carried his great battle axe from a padded ring set in the back of a bandolier that criss-crossed his shoulders and was attached to his belt.
How’s THAT? Powerful for sure, but it can add some serious hand clog, too.
Anyway, I likely won’t be posting much tomorrow, so here’s a couple more possessions and a Dwarf to go with them. Should be able to tide you over.  Enjoy!
 Dwarven Pipe
Possession • Pipe
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Fellowship: Exert bearer and discard a pipeweed to draw X cards, where X is the number of pipes you can spot (limit 3).
“And certainly it was from Bree that the art of smoking the genuine weed spread in the recent centuries among Dwarves and such other folk....”
There will be a reappearance of Gimli’s Pipe as well, but not until the next set, The Way Into Mordor.
 •Dwarven Cart
Possession • Support Area
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Fellowship: Spot no more than 3 cards stacked here to stack a possession here from hand.
Regroup: Add to take a possession from here into hand.
“An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End.”
Dwarven Escort
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
When this companion is in your starting fellowship and you can spot a Dwarf or Hobbit, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
When you play this companion (except in your starting fellowship), you may play a possession or tale from your draw deck.
“It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods. A few of them remained at Bag End.” |
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:21 pm; edited 1 time in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones
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| AgentDrake |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:02 pm |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Alright, well I’ll have to figure out what to do with the harness...I may end up just scrapping it. I like things about SoP’s suggested wording, but it completely changes what I was going for.
Ooo, ooo...how about this?
Bandolier Harness
Possession
Bearer must be a Dwarf. Limit one per bearer.
At the start of each assignment phase, you may exchange a hand weapon borne by bearer for a hand weapon from your hand with an equal or lesser strength bonus.
Gimli carried his great battle axe from a padded ring set in the back of a bandolier that criss-crossed his shoulders and was attached to his belt.
Interesting...
How’s THAT? Powerful for sure, but it can add some serious hand clog, too.
Anyway, I likely won’t be posting much tomorrow, so here’s a couple more possessions and a Dwarf to go with them. Should be able to tide you over. Enjoy!
Dwarven Pipe
Possession • Pipe
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Fellowship: Exert bearer and discard a pipeweed to draw X cards, where X is the number of pipes you can spot (limit 3).
“And certainly it was from Bree that the art of smoking the genuine weed spread in the recent centuries among Dwarves and such other folk....”
Looks nice. Are there Dwarven pipeweeds, too, or just running off Shire ones?
There will be a reappearance of Gimli’s Pipe as well, but not until the next set, The Way Into Mordor.
• Dwarven Cart
Possession • Support Area
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Fellowship: Spot no more than 3 cards stacked here to stack a possession here from hand.
Regroup: Add to take a possession from here into hand.
“An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End.”
Bad wording on the Fellowship action. Should be "Fellowship: If you cannot spot more than 3 cards here stack a possession here from hand." As it is, they merely have to spot 0, 1, 2, or 3 of the cards that are on there to meet the cost; this wording deals with whether or not it’s possible to spot the cards, not whether or not you do.
Dwarven Escort
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
When this companion is in your starting fellowship and you can spot a Dwarf or Hobbit, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
When you play this companion (except in your starting fellowship), you may play a possession or tale from your draw deck.
“It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods. A few of them remained at Bag End.”
Should probably limit the twilight cost to 1 or less on the possession/tale. I like him, though. 
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| legoles3333 |
![]() Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:51 am |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Alright, well I’ll have to figure out what to do with the harness...I may end up just scrapping it. I like things about SoP’s suggested wording, but it completely changes what I was going for.
Ooo, ooo...how about this?
Bandolier Harness
Possession
Bearer must be a Dwarf. Limit one per bearer.
At the start of each assignment phase, you may exchange a hand weapon borne by bearer for a hand weapon from your hand with an equal or lesser strength bonus.
Gimli carried his great battle axe from a padded ring set in the back of a bandolier that criss-crossed his shoulders and was attached to his belt.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, tis perfect!!!
Dwarven Pipe
Possession • Pipe
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Fellowship: Exert bearer and discard a pipeweed to draw X cards, where X is the number of pipes you can spot (limit 3).
“And certainly it was from Bree that the art of smoking the genuine weed spread in the recent centuries among Dwarves and such other folk....”
hmm...i think you can drop the Exert Bearer Part
• Dwarven Cart
Possession • Support Area
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Fellowship: Spot no more than 3 cards stacked here to stack a possession here from hand.
Regroup: Add to take a possession from here into hand.
“An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End.”
make it cost compare to sword rack and spot no more then 2 possessions, compare to sword rack
Dwarven Escort
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
When this companion is in your starting fellowship and you can spot a Dwarf or Hobbit, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
When you play this companion (except in your starting fellowship), you may play a possession or tale from your draw deck.
“It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods. A few of them remained at Bag End.”
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| lem0nhead |
![]() Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:09 am |
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For cryin out loud l3333 get rid of the !!! that are messing this page up they arent necessary anyway.
DáinIronfoot wrote: Alright, well I’ll have to figure out what to do with the harness...I may end up just scrapping it. I like things about SoP’s suggested wording, but it completely changes what I was going for.
Ooo, ooo...how about this?
Bandolier Harness
Possession
Bearer must be a Dwarf. Limit one per bearer.
At the start of each assignment phase, you may exchange a hand weapon borne by bearer for a hand weapon from your hand with an equal or lesser strength bonus.
Gimli carried his great battle axe from a padded ring set in the back of a bandolier that criss-crossed his shoulders and was attached to his belt.
How’s THAT? Powerful for sure, but it can add some serious hand clog, too.
Hmm sorry Dain i dont share your enthusiasm, its an odd card that i wouldnt use as i cant see the benefit.
Dwarven Pipe
Possession • Pipe
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Fellowship: Exert bearer and discard a pipeweed to draw X cards, where X is the number of pipes you can spot (limit 3).
“And certainly it was from Bree that the art of smoking the genuine weed spread in the recent centuries among Dwarves and such other folk....”
Fair enough but if you exert bearer make it cost 0.
• Dwarven Cart
Possession • Support Area
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Fellowship: Spot no more than 3 cards stacked here to stack a possession here from hand.
Regroup: Add to take a possession from here into hand.
“An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End.”
Make it no more than 2 cards or its too useful.
Dwarven Escort
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
When this companion is in your starting fellowship and you can spot a Dwarf or Hobbit, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
When you play this companion (except in your starting fellowship), you may play a possession or tale from your draw deck.
“It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods. A few of them remained at Bag End.”
Dwarven Escort? Like for a single female that needs accompanying to a night out? Interesting duality of usefulness for either starting or decking. He’s ok.
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| sickofpalantirs |
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DáinIronfoot wrote:
Bandolier Harness
Possession
Bearer must be a Dwarf. Limit one per bearer.
At the start of each assignment phase, you may exchange a hand weapon borne by bearer for a hand weapon from your hand with an equal or lesser strength bonus.
Gimli carried his great battle axe from a padded ring set in the back of a bandolier that criss-crossed his shoulders and was attached to his belt.
I am missing its usefulness...now if it was one from your discard pile...
Dwarven Pipe
Possession • Pipe
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Fellowship: Exert bearer and discard a pipeweed to draw X cards, where X is the number of pipes you can spot (limit 3).
“And certainly it was from Bree that the art of smoking the genuine weed spread in the recent centuries among Dwarves and such other folk....”
cool
• Dwarven Cart
Possession • Support Area
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Fellowship: Spot no more than 3 cards stacked here to stack a possession here from hand.
Regroup: Add to take a possession from here into hand.
“An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End.”
cut cost to 1
Dwarven Escort
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
When this companion is in your starting fellowship and you can spot a Dwarf or Hobbit, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
When you play this companion (except in your starting fellowship), you may play a possession or tale from your draw deck.
“It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods. A few of them remained at Bag End.”
it works. |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:41 am |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Bandolier Harness
Possession
Bearer must be a Dwarf. Limit one per bearer.
At the start of each assignment phase, you may exchange a hand weapon borne by bearer for a hand weapon from your hand with an equal or lesser strength bonus.
Gimli carried his great battle axe from a padded ring set in the back of a bandolier that criss-crossed his shoulders and was attached to his belt.
’One’ should be ’1’. I like it, but I would take out the strength bonus clause allowing you to simply exhange possessions.
DáinIronfoot wrote: Dwarven Pipe
Possession • Pipe
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Fellowship: Exert bearer and discard a pipeweed to draw X cards, where X is the number of pipes you can spot (limit 3).
“And certainly it was from Bree that the art of smoking the genuine weed spread in the recent centuries among Dwarves and such other folk....”
What’s the point of a limit of 3? Make it 2 or take it out altogether.
DáinIronfoot wrote: • Dwarven Cart
Possession • Support Area
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Fellowship: Spot no more than 3 cards stacked here to stack a possession here from hand.
Regroup: Add to take a possession from here into hand.
“An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End.”
Nice rework of Gandalf’s cart. No complaints really.
DáinIronfoot wrote: Dwarven Escort
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
When this companion is in your starting fellowship and you can spot a Dwarf or Hobbit, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
When you play this companion (except in your starting fellowship), you may play a possession or tale from your draw deck.
“It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods. A few of them remained at Bag End.”
Take out the ’in your starting fellowship bit’, with a text like that and a second ability like his he doesn’t need that restriction. And I don’t like the idea of a fantastic starting companion with an ability that doesn’t work, so I’d actually change the ability or take out the cost reduction.
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| elf lvr |
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DáinIronfoot wrote:
Bandolier Harness
Possession
Bearer must be a Dwarf. Limit one per bearer.
At the start of each assignment phase, you may exchange a hand weapon borne by bearer for a hand weapon from your hand with an equal or lesser strength bonus.
Gimli carried his great battle axe from a padded ring set in the back of a bandolier that criss-crossed his shoulders and was attached to his belt.
Interesting... a good way to manage things if you have a Dwarven Axe on your Gimli, a Battle Axe in your hand, and nowhere to replay to...
Quote: Dwarven Pipe
Possession • Pipe
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Fellowship: Exert bearer and discard a pipeweed to draw X cards, where X is the number of pipes you can spot (limit 3).
“And certainly it was from Bree that the art of smoking the genuine weed spread in the recent centuries among Dwarves and such other folk....”
Seems okay to me. More card drawing. I’d most likely stick to No Pauses, No Spills myself.
Quote: • Dwarven Cart
Possession • Support Area
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Fellowship: Spot no more than 3 cards stacked here to stack a possession here from hand.
Regroup: Add to take a possession from here into hand.
“An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End.”
Another good way to prevent hand clog when you just plain have too many possessions for the dwarves you have out. This stuff would work well with the new Gimli, Opinionated Guide.
Quote: Dwarven Escort
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Hunter 1.
When this companion is in your starting fellowship and you can spot a Dwarf or Hobbit, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
When you play this companion (except in your starting fellowship), you may play a possession or tale from your draw deck.
“It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods. A few of them remained at Bag End.”
I’d drop the hunter thing, myself. He’s still quite good without it. Imagine starting four of these with Dain! |
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