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legoles3333

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:31 pm

Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 861 Location: In a place that is beyond your imagination

Thranduil wrote:

Dain Ironfoot wrote:

I’d do either this or the card above it in different phases. Very powerful otherwise.

I understand your issue fully, but here’s my argument for why it isn’t too powerful. If you couldn’t ’cheat’ (and cheat reliably), the riddles would just do nothing, and in fact would hurt you (well, the first one would anyway, after that it’d be fine). I think it’s reasonable to have to use 2 cards instead of 1 to reliably get your strategy to work. I’ll think on it though, and thanks for raising it.

In the meantime, I think I’d like some more riddles, these ones with a bit of a twist.

Unhinged Box Shire

Event • Maneuver
To play, spot Bilbo (or 2 Hobbits).
Riddle. Choose an opponent and name a number. Then, reveal the top 5 cards of that player’s draw deck. If the named number matches the number of minions revealed, you may discard a condition. If it does not, that player may play one minion revealed.
Yet golden treasure inside is hid.
H1 C 272

lol maybe you should make it shadow cards for the free peeps person to have a better chance

Inquisitive Eyes Shire

Event • Maneuver
Spot Bilbo (or 2 Shire

companions) to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck, and look at the next 3. Replace them in the same order, and you may take the next maneuver action.
Bilbo’s eyes were seldom wrong.
H1 C 261

um ok

Empty Holes Filled Gollum

Event • Maneuver
To play, spot Gollum
Riddle. Choose an opponent and name a number. Then, reveal the top 5 cards of that player’s draw deck. If the named number matches the number of Free Peoples cards revealed, you may exert a companion. If it does not, heal a companion.
It comes first and follows after / Ends life, kills laughter.
H1 C 129

good

Watching Silently Gollum

Event • Maneuver
Exert Gollum to look at the top 10 cards of a player’s draw deck. Replace them in the same order.
Bilbo could not see him, but he was wondering a lot about Bilbo, for he could see that he was no goblin at all.
H1 C 145

hmm nice!

Left Behind Shire

Event • Fellowship
Spot a Shire

companion to take a Shire

Riddle into hand from your draw deck (or from a Shire

condition).
When Bilbo opened his eyes, he wondered if he had; for it was just as dark as with them shut.
H1 C 262

lol sweet!

Spoiling cards is so much fun!

Thranduil

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:35 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

Thranduil wrote:

Unhinged Box Shire

Inquisitive Eyes Shire

Event • Maneuver
Spot Bilbo (or 2 Shire

Empty Holes Filled Gollum

Watching Silently Gollum

Left Behind Shire

Event • Fellowship
Spot a Shire

companion to take a Shire

Riddle into hand from your draw deck (or from a Shire

condition).
When Bilbo opened his eyes, he wondered if he had; for it was just as dark as with them shut.
H1 C 262

nice

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Thranduil

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:08 am

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

sickofpalantirs wrote:

wait so would you look at 5, 3 or 8?

Sorry, that could be clearer. You REVEAL to all players the top 5, then LOOK AT (without showing to the other players) the 3 after that - so you see 8, but everyone else sees 5.

sickofpalantirs wrote:

make it cost something thats a lot of cards

It does cost something, you have to exert Gollum, which you can only do 3 times. I see your point, though.

Thanks all!

Thranduil

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WeyounsLastClone

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:14 am

Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 175 Location: The Netherlands

I love how the Riddles work, in addition with the cards like Inquisitive Eyes and such. Great job, I think the cards work fine as they are now.

(Although the only problem I’m seeing is that they’re all Events, and might be difficult to get/use at the right moment or in the right combinations).

Thranduil

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:59 pm

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

Time for the artillery of riddles:

What Have I Got In My Pocket? Shire

Event • Maneuver
To play, exert Bilbo and add a threat.
Riddle. Choose an opponent who must name a number. Then, reveal your hand. If that number matches the number of possessions revealed, discard 2 Free Peoples cards. If it does not, you may discard up to 2 minions.
But Bilbo could not think of any question with that nasty wet cold thing sitting next to him...
H1 R 275

Guessed, Not Given Shire

Event • Response
If a riddle is about to be resolved, exert a Hobbit to add or subtract 1 from a named number. This can change the effects of that riddle.
After all, he had won the game, pretty fairly, at a horrible risk
H1 C 258

Wonderful Plan Shire

Event • Maneuver
Spot Bilbo (or 2 Shire

companions) to take into hand a Shire

maneuver event from your discard pile. You may take the next maneuver action.
Things were looking pretty bad again. when suddenly Bilbo reappeared, and charged into the astonished spiders unexpectedly from the side.
H1 U 277

All Things Devour Gollum

Event • Maneuver
To play, exert Gollum.
Riddle. Choose an opponent who must name a number. Then, reveal your hand. If that number matches the number of characters revealed, discard Gollum and another minion. If it does not, you may play a minion revealed for -4 twilight.
Slays king, ruins town, / And beats high mountain down.
H1 R 126

Three Guesseses Gollum

Event • Response
If a riddle is about to be resolved, spot Gollum to add or subtract 1 from a named number. This can change the effects of that riddle.
’Not fair! not fair!’ he hissed. ’It isn’t fair, my precious, is it, to ask us what it’s got in its nasty little pocketses.’
H1 C 143

Just One More Question Gollum

Event • Maneuver
Spot Gollum to take into hand a Gollum

riddle from your discard pile. You may take the next maneuver action.
’If precious asks, and it doesn’t answer, we eats it, my precious.’
H1 C 132

Black Shadow Gollum

Event • Maneuver
Play Gollum from your draw deck or discard pile to take into hand a Gollum

maneuver event from your discard pile.
No one would see him, no one would notice him, till he had his fingers on their throat.
H1 R 127

Hope that allays some of your fears, WeyounsLastClone (though it is supposed to be a very combo-heavy strategy).

Thranduil

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:05 pm

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Thranduil wrote:

What Have I Got In My Pockets? Shire

"Pocket", not "Pockets". For shame. Razz

Thranduil wrote:

Guessed, Not Given Shire

Not sure about the wording, as I don’t think "resolved" has been used in that way before. Of course, the wording of the whole thing is new, but it does work, I think.

Thranduil wrote:

Wonderful Plan Shire

Event • Maneuver
Spot Bilbo (or 2 Shire

companions) to take into hand a Shire

Okay. Kinda meh, but not bad.

Thranduil wrote:

All Things Devour Gollum

Ah, the opposite of what most of your riddles do. Nice.

Thranduil wrote:

Three Guesseses Gollum

Okay.

Thranduil wrote:

Just One More Question Gollum

Event • Maneuver
Spot Gollum to take into hand a Gollum

riddle from your discard pile. You may take the next maneuver action.
’If precious asks, and it doesn’t answer, we eats it, my precious.’
H1 C 132

Not bad.

Thranduil wrote:

Black Shadow Gollum

Event • Maneuver
Play Gollum from your draw deck or discard pile to take into hand a Gollum

maneuver event from your discard pile.
No one would see him, no one would notice him, till he had his fingers on their throat.
H1 R 127

Ditto.

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:41 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

Thranduil wrote:

Time for the artillery of riddles:

What Have I Got In My Pockets? Shire

Guessed, Not Given Shire

Wonderful Plan Shire

Event • Maneuver
Spot Bilbo (or 2 Shire

companions) to take into hand a Shire

All Things Devour Gollum

Three Guesseses Gollum

Just One More Question Gollum

Event • Maneuver
Spot Gollum to take into hand a Gollum

riddle from your discard pile. You may take the next maneuver action.
’If precious asks, and it doesn’t answer, we eats it, my precious.’
H1 C 132
sure

Black Shadow Gollum

Event • Maneuver
Play Gollum from your draw deck or discard pile to take into hand a Gollum

nice

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Thranduil

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:21 pm

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

Dain Ironfoot wrote:

"Pocket", not "Pockets". For shame. Razz

I can’t believe I didn’t notice that! I’m utterly ashamed. Embarassed

(I was probably thinking about when Gollum says, ’What has it got in its nasty little pocketses’. That’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it.)
Also, I’m not sure whether you noticed or not, but What Have I Got In My Pocket? also works the other way to the normal riddle (you mentioned it only for the Gollum

equivalent, so I thought you might not have seen it above).

sickofpalantirs wrote:

WAY to good. let them choose 2 number’s in my honest opinion.

It’s funny you should say that! Let me give you another card:

Two Guesses At Once Gollum

Event • Response
If you must name a number for a riddle, exert Gollum to name two instead. If either is correct, the appropriate results trigger as usual.
He hissed and spluttered... and wriggled and squirmed; but still he did not dare to waste his last guess.
H1 U 144

And just because I’m feeling extra nice, I’ll hand round some GPs, and spoil some more unpolished and weirder riddles tomorrow!

Thranduil

sickofpalantirs

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:28 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

nice card! but the title should be different. it sounds clunky

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Thranduil

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:09 am

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

I promised some weirder riddles, and here’s one (though they have no Gollum

equivalents, as they are based on Bilbo’s conversations with Smaug instead.)

Riddling Talk Shire

Event • Maneuver
To play, spot Bilbo (or 2 Hobbits).
Riddle. Choose an opponent and name a number. Then, reveal 3 random cards from their adventure deck. If the named number matches the number of sites with a shadow number of 1 or less, they may replace a site on the site path with a site from their adventure deck. If it does not, you may make a minion strength -3 until the regroup phase.
No dragon can resist the fascination of riddling talk...
H2 U 178

I’m also going to throw in some other Shire

cards, while we’re on the subject.

A Fourteenth Shire

Event • Skirmish
If Bilbo is not assigned to a skirmish, add his strength to that of a Dwarf.
’Just let anyone say I chose the wrong man or the wrong house, and you can stop at thirteen and have all the bad luck you like.’
H1 R 243

Burglarious Proceedings Shire

Event • Regroup
Spot Bilbo and exert a Dwarf (or another Hobbit) to make an opponent discard one of their cards from play.
’Silly time to go practising pinching and pocket-picking...’
H1 R 251

• Fond of Visitors Shire

Condition • Support Area
When you play this condition, add a Shire

token to it.
Each time you play a Shire

event, you may reinforce a Shire

token.
Fellowship: Remove 2 tokens from this condition and spot Bilbo (or 2 Shire

companions) to heal a companion.
’Now we are all here!’ said Gandalf, looking at the row of thirteen hoods... and his own hat hanging on the pegs.
H1 U 257

Hope you enjoy them.

Thranduil

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