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Thranduil
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:16 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
NBarden wrote:
4 •The Arkenstone, Treasure of the House of Thror Dwarven
Artifact • Support Area
To play, spot Bilbo and Thorin.
Bilbo is strength +1 for each of the following races you can spot: Dwarf, Elf, Man.
Each Dwarf is damage +1 and resistance -1.
Each Gandalf man is strength +1 and resistance -1.
Each Elf gains hunter 1 and resistance -1.

The resistance thing is a great touch, but I think it has too much text and would probably remove the first line and maybe lower the cost.

NBarden wrote:
4 Quiet as Can Be Dwarven
Event • Fellowship or Maneuver
Stealth. Toil 1.
Spot a Hobbit and a Dwarf to remove 4 (or 6 if you can spot Bilbo).

Why don’t you just tone the whole card down and make it cost 2 with toil 1 then removing 2 or 3? Or make it 0 with exerting the hobbit and Dwarf as part of the cost instead? As it is, removing 6 seems ridiculous for a single card to achieve, even at the cost of 4 exertions. I’d also remove a hobbit from the cost of the card, because you’re very unlikely to use it if you can’t spot Bilbo.

Great ideas.

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:14 am
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
NBarden wrote:
Time for an artifact.

4 •The Arkenstone, Treasure of the House of Thror Dwarven
Artifact • Support Area
To play, spot Bilbo and Thorin.
Bilbo is strength +1 for each of the following races you can spot: Dwarf, Elf, Man.
Each Dwarf is damage +1 and resistance -1.
Each Gandalf man is strength +1 and resistance -1.
Each Elf gains hunter 1 and resistance -1.
nice! make the dwarves resistance -2 though IMHO

4 Quiet as Can Be Dwarven
Event • Fellowship or Maneuver
Stealth. Toil 1.
Spot a Hobbit and a Dwarf to remove 4 (or 6 if you can spot Bilbo).

um I guess
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:50 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
I just thought of a card, an Able Guide. It removes 4, so how is this OP?

Lord of Moria. I don’t think resistance -2 is necessary. Especially with Gimli RB.

Although that would be weird, with his resistance + ability...weird...
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macheteman
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:59 pm
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the thing is that removing any twilight in the fellowship phase gets overpowered very fast. regroup phase twilight removing is fine to go up to 6-8.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:46 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
yeah removing in regroup is a lot less useful then fellowship. regroup IS useful though.
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NBarden
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:28 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
2 •Dori, Friend of Bilbo Dwarven
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Damage +1
If Dori is not assigned to a skirmish, exert Dori to replace Bilbo skirmishing a minion.
He just managed to catch hold of Dori’s legs, as Dori was borne off last of all.

1 •Ori, Friend of Thorin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
Damage +1
To play, exert a Dwarf or add a threat.
"Ori, at your service"

1 •Nori, Friend of Thorin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
Damage +1.
To play, exert a Hobbit or add a burden.
"Nori, at your service"

I couldn’t find much on these guys. Not even sure that the lore is in the book, but I’m to lazy to check now, it sounds like something they’d say,

2 •Dwarven Diplomacy Dwarven
Condition
To play, spot a Gandalf man. Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Bearer is strength +1 for each Dwarven artifact you can spot (limit: +5).
Each Gandalf man is strength -2.
Skirmish: If bearer is Thorin, exert him and X Gandalf men to make him strength +X and resistance -X (and damage +X, if you can spot a Hobbit).
"It was rightly guessed that I could not forbear to redeem the Arkenstone, the treasure of my house. For it, I will give one fourteenth share of the hoard in silver and gold, setting aside the gems; but that shall be accounted the promised share of this traitor, and with that reward he shall depart."
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:38 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
NBarden wrote:
2 •Dori, Friend of Bilbo Dwarven
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Damage +1
If Dori is not assigned to a skirmish, exert Dori to replace Bilbo skirmishing a minion.
He just managed to catch hold of Dori’s legs, as Dori was borne off last of all.
really goodi playing bilbo bearer of things burgled...

1 •Ori, Friend of Thorin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
Damage +1
To play, exert a Dwarf or add a threat.
"Ori, at your service"
sure

1 •Nori, Friend of Thorin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
Damage +1.
To play, exert a Hobbit or add a burden.
"Nori, at your service"
Razz bland

2 •Dwarven Diplomacy Dwarven
Condition
To play, spot a Gandalf man. Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Bearer is strength +1 for each Dwarven artifact you can spot (limit: +5).
Each Gandalf man is strength -2.
Skirmish: If bearer is Thorin, exert him and X Gandalf men to make him strength +X and resistance -X (and damage +X, if you can spot a Hobbit).
"It was rightly guessed that I could not forbear to redeem the Arkenstone, the treasure of my house. For it, I will give one fourteenth share of the hoard in silver and gold, setting aside the gems; but that shall be accounted the promised share of this traitor, and with that reward he shall depart."

uh sure
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lem0nhead
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:42 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
NBarden wrote:
2 •Dori, Friend of Bilbo Dwarven
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Damage +1
If Dori is not assigned to a skirmish, exert Dori to replace Bilbo skirmishing a minion.
He just managed to catch hold of Dori’s legs, as Dori was borne off last of all.

Awesome but slightly overpowered with the arb bilbo. If it stated except the rb then its well cool.

1 •Ori, Friend of Thorin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
Damage +1
To play, exert a Dwarf or add a threat.
"Ori, at your service"

Cool beans.

1 •Nori, Friend of Thorin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 5
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
Damage +1.
To play, exert a Hobbit or add a burden.
"Nori, at your service"

Erm deja vu.

2 •Dwarven Diplomacy Dwarven
Condition
To play, spot a Gandalf man. Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Bearer is strength +1 for each Dwarven artifact you can spot (limit: +5).
Each Gandalf man is strength -2.
Skirmish: If bearer is Thorin, exert him and X Gandalf men to make him strength +X and resistance -X (and damage +X, if you can spot a Hobbit).
"It was rightly guessed that I could not forbear to redeem the Arkenstone, the treasure of my house. For it, I will give one fourteenth share of the hoard in silver and gold, setting aside the gems; but that shall be accounted the promised share of this traitor, and with that reward he shall depart."

Holy crud if you can fit all that on a card id be impressed. Odd balance each gandalf man -2 is nasty for only a potential plus 5 on one guy. Confusing card as to whether its good or not.

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NBarden
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:45 am
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Should I make it -1?
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:33 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
I don’t think so. if you run brand his purpose isn’t to fight anyway. it is to help against swarms and boost your dwarves. I would cut the ability to make it fit.
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