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| legoles3333 |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:37 am |
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| what the heck?!?!?!?!?! i must have been sleepy when i put that in, i thought it said or 2 card if you can spot a dwarf with muster! oh well |
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| Anonymous Prodigy |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:42 am |
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My vote goes to BattleNOLINKWarg.  |
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| NBarden |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:26 am |
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Anonymous Prodigy wrote: You may vote for only card. Voting ends in thirteen hours. Strange, isn’t it? 
BattleNOLINKWarg
 •Déagol, Bearer of Gifts 
Companion
3 Strength
4 Vitality
8 Ringed Resistance
Ring-bound.
If Deagol is the Ring-bearer, each time he is assigned to a skirmish, wound him or add 2 burdens.
Maneuver: Discard a condition from hand to draw a card. If you are at a river, remove .
"Give that to us..."
A Deagol RB! SWEET! Anyway, balanced, a small drawback, a weak ring-bearer. Somewhat high resistance, though, for an ARB.
sickofpalantirs
 •Sam, Bearer of Office 
Companion • Hobbit
Strength • 3
Vitality • 4
Ringed Resistance • 9
While Sam bears the One Ring, he is resistance +1 for each follower you can spot. Manuever : Spot a companion bearing a follower and add a burden to heal that companion (or heal him or her twice if he or she is a companion. Limit once per turn)
Samwise was the Mayor of the shire for many of the year after the war of the ring.
Okay this is so absurd its not even funny. Who wouldn’t use him over Frodo?  This is so OP. Well...you got the story-line right, Sam the incorruptible. But then add a crazy healing? All corruption and wounding decks die on spot!
legoles3333
 ●Durin III, Dwarven Ring-Master
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Str 8
Vit 4
Ringed Res 5
Damage +1, Hunter 2 If Durin is the Ring-Bearer, each time the fellowship moves you may take a Dwarven card in hand from your discard pile (or two minions with Munter).
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Tough ring-bearer, damage +1, decent resistance, hunter bonus, card recursion, no drawback, can you say, overpowered? Even more so than SoP!
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| legoles3333 |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:38 am |
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| looks like me and SoP are going down |
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| BattleWarg |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:46 am |
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As a note, I’d like to put a comparison up (based on the closest ARB):
Deagol vs Smeagol-
If not the Ring-bearer:
-Deagol costs compared to Smeagol’s 
-Deagol has no to play ability, Smeagol adds a burden.
-Each loses an ability
--Deagol can be assigned to skirmishes without having to wound or add burdens.
--Smeagol can’t use his regroup ability.
In any case:
-Equal Strength
-Equal Vitality
-Deagol has 8 resistance, Smeagol has 7 resistance
-Both are Ring-bound
-Neither have a race
-Each has an ability
--Deagol can discard conditions from hand to draw cards and possibly remove twilight (during maneuver phase).
--Smeagol kills an unbound companion each move.
Sam (Office) vs Sam (Need)-
If not the Ring-bearer:
-Office doesn’t get boost for followers
-Each cost
In any case:
-Each have 3 Strength
-Each have 4 Vitality
-Office has 9 resistance, Need has 5 resistance
-Need gets a resistance boost for each Hobbit
-Each has an ability
--Office adds a burden to heal a companion with a follower (or a companion twice if it qualifies). Once per turn.
--Need exerts and transfers his follower to discard minions during regroup.
(If the Ring-bearer, Office is better unless you have 4 other Hobbits plus the number of followers. Or a great ability to heal and double+ move but a difficulty with minions.)
Durin III vs Gimli-
If not the Ring-bearer:
-Gimli costs , Durin III costs
-Each lose an ability
--Gimli can skirmish without adding burdens or threats
--Durin III can’t get cards from the discard pile when he moves
In any case:
-Gimli has 6 Strength, Durin III has 8 Strength
-Gimli has 3 Vitality, Durin III has 4 Vitality
-Gimli has 4 Resistance, Durin III has 5 Resistance
-Each is Damage +1.
-Each has an additional ability
--Gimli gets resistance boost for his damage bonus
--Durin III has hunter 2.
(If the Ring-bearer, Durin III is better unless facing a quick corruption deck that doesn’t rely on skirmishing the Ring-bearer - Either way, Gimli’s only got 2 advantages: one if they aren’t used if Ring-bearer and the easy to pump resistance, while Durin’s is a bit harder)
In short, there are a variety of Sams of varying usefulness. Bearer of Office’s resistance is simply too easy to boost, even compared to Sam, Bearer of Great Need’s - even when splashing, and with a decent burden removal is a quick healer for any culture. The advantage of the cost for the maneuver ability is that the followers generally add burdens to transfer to the companion. So, it is usually, at the best, add 2 burdens to heal a companion.
Whereas Durin III is much better Ring-bearer than Gimli, bearer of grudges but without the ring, would (almost) never be used, for preference of Durin III, Dwarven Lord. (The only case is if you needed a support hunter)
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| legoles3333 |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:50 am |
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| dang with that long explination i thought i was getting somewhere, oh well i vote BW |
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| BattleWarg |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:08 pm |
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legoles3333 wrote: dang with that long explination i thought i was getting somewhere, oh well i vote BW
Well, it basically came down to use as ring-bearer and use as other companion.
As Ring-bearer, it was debatable (except against force assign to Ring-bearer/swarm and corruption*) - but outside being Ring-bearer, all Durin III, Dwarven Lord would need is a Dwarven Axe and he’d be just as high strength as Durin III, Dwarven Ring-master (against a non-hunter) with higher resistance, and ability and would (if you have 2 Dwarves) cost less (and without, cost the same). Only against minions with a high hunter bonus would it be preferable (as in, the minions that would lose without their hunter bonus).
*In the forced assignment/swarm, Durin III was definitely the better Ring-bearer, while against corruption, Sam (obviously) was.
And I had a feeling that this would be the only way I’d stand a chance of moving on... |
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:14 pm |
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| boy i forgot to look at sam’s resistance... |
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| AnxiousChieftain |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:35 pm |
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| My vote goes to BW. |
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| Anonymous Prodigy |
![]() Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:45 pm |
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BW wins the tie-breaker with 4 votes!  SoP comes in 2nd with 1 vote, and l3333 comes in 3rd with 0 votes. Thanks for competing, guys! 
And the contestants advancing to Round 2 are.....
AC
m64
CG
NB
BW
T7
Dain
EL
Good job, guys! You have survived the first round, but now the going is not so easy.
And the DC for Round 2 is.....
a minion with a twilight cost of .
You choose everything else! The deadline for DC submittal is Tuesday.  |
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