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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:51 pm |
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macheteman wrote: very good, except the fellowship ability is a little un-beorn-ish. and underpowered. i’d make it add a threat to remove  if i didn’t abolish that special ability altogether. and make it different. but altogether, not bad.
Here were my thoughts:
1) Choke (especially in the fellowship phase) gets broken very quickly and very easily (eg. Sting), which is why his ability is so minimal. If you really think it’s not good enough, I’ll try to change it.
2) It does kind of make sense in the story, as he helps them along their way, lets them recuperate from their journeys, and then guards them right up until Mirkwood, but I understand your point.
 for your comments.
But now there’s a bit of a pickle - 2 people wanted me to tone Skin-Changer down and one wanted me to make him even harder! Another opinion or two certainly wouldn’t go amiss guys.
And I’m afraid SoP that I still don’t understand what LA is!
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:24 am |
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| macheteman |
![]() Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:32 am |
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Thranduil wrote:
 • Beorn, Agreeable Host 
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Damage +1.
Fellowship: If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn to remove .
’... and you must be careful not to annoy him, or heaven knows what will happen.’
H1 C 89
i still sugest making it add a threat to remove one. and i’d add: regroup: if you cannot spot 4 companions you may remove , (or exert Beorn to remove  ).
or something like that to give him some versatility. either way, i definitely suggest making the original ability "add a threat". it can’t really become broken because at most there will be 3 companions in play, and it doesn’t bog beorn down in burdens. to tell you the truth, beorn is a guy who i think should be enduring. that would be another thing for you to think about.
anyway, those are my thoughts.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:38 am |
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Thranduil wrote: • Beorn, Agreeable Host
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Damage +1.
Fellowship: If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn to remove .
’... and you must be careful not to annoy him, or heaven knows what will happen.’
H1 C 89
I understand the choking idea, but I still think his ability is kinda weak. Perhaps "exert Beorn to remove (or exert him twice to remove )." Now you can remove up to by exhausting him, or if you can bump up his vitality by just 1, suddenly you can remove  ! THAT would be something I would consider. 
Thranduil wrote: • Beorn, Skin-Changer
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 6
Skirmish: If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn make him strength +5 and damage +1. Until the end of the regroup phase, he is not a Man.
’... sometimes he is a huge black bear, sometimes he is a great strong black haired man with huge arms and a great beard.’
H1 R 90
Limit it to "At the start of each skirmish involving Beorn", or just "limit once per skirmish". Or do like AP said, and make it exert him twice. Otherwise you’re looking at a potential strength +15, damage +3 pump, which is just crazy.
Thranduil wrote:  • Beorn’s Axe
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +3
Bearer must be Beorn.
Beorn is terror 1 for each wound on him.
He was clothed in a tunic of wool down to his knees, and was leaning on a large axe.
H1 R 92
Comboed with the above, especially Agreeable Host, this is NASTY! But okay, I think. Barely. |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:35 am |
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I’ll go with Dain on the first one, but thanks both of you! A each is definitely coming your way! And enduring is a thought... 
And here are the only other cards specifically for Beorn in the whole set - but don’t worry, later he gets some bears to help him out.
Terror X (Each time this character is assigned to skirmish an opponent’s character, they may make that opponent exert X of their characters.)
 Fierce Hatred
Event • Skirmish
Make Beorn strength +3. He gains Terror 1 until the regroup phase.
He came alone, and in bear’s shape; and he seemed to have grown almost to giant-size in his wrath.
H1 C 100
Fierce Enemy
Event • Response
If Beorn wins a skirmish, wound a minion (twice if that minion is fierce).
The roar of his voice was like drums and guns; and he tossed wolves and goblins from his path like straws and feathers.
H1 R 99
Beorn’s Animals
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot Beorn and exert a companion.
Response: If a minion is played, discard this condition to make a Shadow player discard a Shadow event from their hand.
Some horses, very sleek and well groomed, trotted up across the grass and looked at them intently with very intelligent faces; then off they galloped to the buildings.
H1 C 91
Very Great Person
Condition • Support Area
Each time Beorn wins a skirmish and you cannot spot 4 companions, add a token here.
Fellowship or Regroup: Remove a token from this condition to remove .
Fellowship: Remove 2 tokens from this condition to heal a companion.
’... he is under no enchantment but his own.’
H1 U 121
Next culture will be  with some lovely lovely riddles!
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![]() Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:35 am |
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I’m assuming there were no problems with these cards, then.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:20 am |
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Thranduil wrote: Fierce Hatred
Event • Skirmish
Make Beorn strength +3. He gains Terror 1 until the regroup phase.
He came alone, and in bear’s shape; and he seemed to have grown almost to giant-size in his wrath.
H1 C 100
Nice, simple pump.
Thranduil wrote: Fierce Enemy
Event • Response
If Beorn wins a skirmish, wound a minion (twice if that minion is fierce).
The roar of his voice was like drums and guns; and he tossed wolves and goblins from his path like straws and feathers.
H1 R 99
Okay.
Thranduil wrote: Beorn’s Animals
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot Beorn.
Response: If a minion is played, discard this condition to make a Shadow player discard a Shadow event from their hand.
Some horses, very sleek and well groomed, trotted up across the grass and looked at them intently with very intelligent faces; then off they galloped to the buildings.
H1 C 91
Needs a cost, like or .
Thranduil wrote: Very Great Person
Condition • Support Area
Each time Beorn wins a skirmish and you cannot spot 4 companions, add a token here.
Fellowship or Regroup: Remove a token from this condition to remove .
Fellowship: Remove 2 tokens from this condition to heal a companion.
’... he is under no enchantment but his own.’
H1 U 121
Very weak. Make each token dropped remove , I think, and then raise the cost of the card to . |
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![]() Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:48 am |
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Thanks Dain - made some changes. How are they now?
Anyone else?
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