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Thranduil
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:20 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
3Lands Under Shadow Isengard
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an Isengard card and either a Sauron or Wraith card.
At the start of each turn, name a Free Peoples culture. Each unbound companion of the named culture is strength -1 and resistance -1 until the regroup phase.
“‘The shadow of Mordor lies on distant lands. Saruman has fallen under it. Rohan is beset....’”

I think its effect is crazily OP. Shadow cards rarely promote a multi-cultural fellowship. Surely making each companion not of the named culture would be better? Or maybe make the FP player choose the culture? I also think it might work better as an event, and I think that it should spot or exert an Isengard minion instead of just a card. Nice ideas though - it’s a real shame that Shadow rainbow was never made particularly viable.

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lem0nhead
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:10 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
elf lvr wrote:
It’s fine. Not many people have multiculture shadows like that.


Thats an invalid argument really as this card would create a new type of deck. All deck types dont exist until cards are made to create them. This would generate a whole new deck focus as its wickedly hard.

Besides how hard would it be to play isengard or one of the others and splash a free no spotting requirement condition or 2 in of the other culture to spot?

Thranduil wrote:
I think its effect is crazily OP.
Thranduil


Thank god someone agrees with me. Sorry DI but its too hard. Like i said cut the strength reducer. The resistance lowerer makes it really good but not broken.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:45 am
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this would be sweet in an Isengard/[souron] uruk deck.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:06 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
My apologies for nothing new from me for a few days (and especially yesterday). I’ve been busy, but not overly so...more lazy than anything. Razz

Okay, I tweaked it so that playing now requires exerting an Isengard minion and either a Sauron or Wraith minion. However, keep in mind that the effects can be greatly reduced with this nifty new card from a couple months back:

2Hold To Your Purpose Elven
Condition • Support Area
If Frodo is the Ring-bearer, each companion with the Frodo signet is Ring-bound.
“‘The Ring-bearer is setting out on the Quest of Mount Doom....May the blessings of Elves and Men and all Free Folk go with you.’”

Just something to keep in mind. There may be a little escalation with Lands Under Shadow, but there are counters in place, too.

For now, here’s another possibly "crazily OP" card. Razz You tell me if it is or not. Enjoy!

1Deceived Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Each time a Gandalf condition or event is played, you may spot 3 Isengard minions (or an Isengard Wizard) and remove 1 to take an Isengard condition or event into hand from your draw deck.
“‘So Saruman guessed, and he had concealed his mind and deceived his messenger.’”
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:32 pm; edited 1 time in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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lem0nhead
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:11 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
DáinIronfoot wrote:
My apologies for nothing new from me for a few days (and especially yesterday). I’ve been busy, but not overly so...more lazy than anything. Razz

Okay, I tweaked it so that playing now requires exerting an Isengard minion and either a Sauron or Wraith minion. However, keep in mind that the effects can be greatly reduced with this nifty new card from a couple months back:

2Hold To Your Purpose Elven
Condition • Support Area
If Frodo is the Ring-bearer, each companion with the Frodo signet is Ring-bound.
“‘The Ring-bearer is setting out on the Quest of Mount Doom....May the blessings of Elves and Men and all Free Folk go with you.’”

Argh! Youre doing that again! Stop making everyone RB or ill continue to moan! Nothing wrong with the principle but i think it will make the gameplay too messy. Sorry.

1Deceived Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Each time a Gandalf condition or event is played (except during the fellowship phase), you may spot 3 Isengard minions (or an Isengard Wizard) and remove 1 to take an Isengard condition or event into hand from your draw deck.
“‘So Saruman guessed, and he had concealed his mind and deceived his messenger.’”

Hmmm scarily good but specific. I actually think its ok. Nice.

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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:18 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
lem0nhead wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
2Hold To Your Purpose Elven
Condition • Support Area
If Frodo is the Ring-bearer, each companion with the Frodo signet is Ring-bound.
“‘The Ring-bearer is setting out on the Quest of Mount Doom....May the blessings of Elves and Men and all Free Folk go with you.’”

Argh! Youre doing that again! Stop making everyone RB or ill continue to moan! Nothing wrong with the principle but i think it will make the gameplay too messy. Sorry.

Too late. Razz People generally liked the idea when I first posted that card weeks ago, so it’s already in the set. Sorry, my friend, but it’s a done deal.

Thanks for the review!
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:02 pm
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DáinIronfoot wrote:

2Hold To Your Purpose Elven
Condition • Support Area
If Frodo is the Ring-bearer, each companion with the Frodo signet is Ring-bound.
“‘The Ring-bearer is setting out on the Quest of Mount Doom....May the blessings of Elves and Men and all Free Folk go with you.’”
maybe add at the end of each turn add a threat or discard this condition.

1Deceived Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Each time a Gandalf condition or event is played (except during the fellowship phase), you may spot 3 Isengard minions (or an Isengard Wizard) and remove 1 to take an Isengard condition or event into hand from your draw deck.
“‘So Saruman guessed, and he had concealed his mind and deceived his messenger.’”

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Thranduil
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:22 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
2Hold To Your Purpose Elven
Condition • Support Area
If Frodo is the Ring-bearer, each companion with the Frodo signet is Ring-bound.
“‘The Ring-bearer is setting out on the Quest of Mount Doom....May the blessings of Elves and Men and all Free Folk go with you.’”

I think this card is totally safe given it only works with Frodo signets. On the other hand, it would be exceedingly interesting to do something like what SoP suggested. And also, it still doesn’t change the fact that I think the ability of the last card is OP.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
For now, here’s another possibly "crazily OP" card. Razz You tell me if it is or not. Enjoy!

Wow, you quoted me. Now I just need to get into someones signature! Razz

DáinIronfoot wrote:
1Deceived Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Each time a Gandalf condition or event is played (except during the fellowship phase), you may spot 3 Isengard minions (or an Isengard Wizard) and remove 1 to take an Isengard condition or event into hand from your draw deck.
“‘So Saruman guessed, and he had concealed his mind and deceived his messenger.’”

Why bother with Isengard Wizard? I think it should just be Saruman instead. And I’d also like some effect for non-Gandalf cards, but obviously much less, because I for one would never use that card. Or, just a secondary discard ability for example, discard it in the Shadow phase to take into hand an Isengard card from your discard pile or something.

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elf lvr
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:26 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
I’d second Thran on his review, except I think it’s good with any Isengard wizard, no need to make it just Saruman. In fact, the title points straight to the Decieved Wizards...
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Thranduil
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:29 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
elf lvr wrote:
I’d second Thran on his review, except I think it’s good with any Isengard wizard, no need to make it just Saruman. In fact, the title points straight to the Decieved Wizards...

Good point.

Oh and Dain, you should also remove the except in the fellowship phase. How many fellowship phases are you going to be able spot 3 Isengard minions?

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