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Pipeweed |
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:41 pm |
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AnxiousChieftain |
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:46 pm |
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As soon as you play the minion, the FP player can use Shadowplay. After it, you can play Pavise.
Also, Pavise only prevents wounds, not exertions. |
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Pipeweed |
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bibfortuna25 |
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:06 pm |
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All cards are played one at a time. So you play the minion, the FP responds with Shadowplay, and then you play the Pavise. |
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bobtheorc |
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:19 pm |
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orian |
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:49 am |
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interesting point on shadowplay , to bounce the discussion, is that you can use it before, or after a "in game arrival special"
example 1:
I have one shadowplay
my opponent plays corsair marauder
as fellowship player, I have the opportunity to exert him and then eventually play unheeded to prevent him from discarding one of my possessions
example 2:
I have 2 shadowplays this time
my opponent plays ulaire otsea, seventh of the nine riders
I can use shadowplay before otsea’s special but I don’t want to because my frodo would have one more wound => would give otsea’s special more efficiency.
I pass for my 2 shadowplays
=> my opponent uses otsea’s special
I can then use the 2 shadowplay
=> my opponent doesn’t uses otsea’s special
I can’t then use the 2 shadowplay
on the opposite, let’s say, I have unheeded in hand and I want to kill otsea before all
well, I can’t prevent his special effect
first shadowplay is used
then my opponent uses otsea’s power
second shadowplay is used and I kill otsea with unheeded
if you have other interesting stuff with shadowplay, I’d be glad to hear them |
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sickofpalantirs |
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:30 am |
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wait OK you can exert x hobbits fi you have x shadoplay to exert a minion x times right (when it id played) |
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orian |
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:27 am |
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sickofpalantirs wrote: wait OK you can exert x hobbits fi you have x shadoplay to exert a minion x times right (when it id played)
I would have said "no" but right now I can’t remember any decent example |
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Merrick_Hale |
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:16 am |
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sickofpalantirs wrote: wait OK you can exert x hobbits fi you have x shadoplay to exert a minion x times right (when it id played) No.
Comprehensive Rule Book 4.0 page 7 wrote: Action
Nearly everything that occurs during the game is some kind of action. Players perform actions to play cards, use special abilities, move their fellowships, reconcile, and so on.
Every action is either optional or required. An optional action is defined as: an action that uses the word “may,” an event, or a special ability. All other actions are required actions.
If two or more required actions are occurring at the same time (for example, more than one “start of turn” action), the Free Peoples player decides in which order they occur.
All required actions responding to a particular trigger are performed before any optional actions. After all such required actions have resolved, players may perform optional actions responding to that same trigger using the action procedure. (See response.)
See also cost, effect, loops. Since both Shadowplay and Ulaire Otsea, Seventh of the Nine Riders are optional actions as evidenced by the "may" in their game text, you have to follow the action procedure for responses as Orian said above. The only reason that you can kill the Corsair Marauder before he can do his "when you play" action is that as the free People’s player, you get the first action when dealing with optional actions (Shadowplay) and you get the first response to the new trigger caused by your optional action (Unheeded). The Corsair Marauder is then killed and his game text is no longer in play and thus cannot be used. |
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sickofpalantirs |
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:17 pm |
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[quote="Merrick_Hale"]sickofpalantirs wrote: wait OK you can exert x hobbits fi you have x shadoplay to exert a minion x times right (when it id played) No.
this is just confusing for me thanks M_H(boy I say that a lot don’t I) |
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