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| PorterTroll |
![]() Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:11 pm |
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| I have no doubt that your sam could beat sauron in a skirmish, but im skeptical that he could actually overwhelm him. But if you can indeed overwhelm him, please explain how. |
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| elf lvr |
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| I don’t think he ever said his sam could overwhelm sauron, did he? I believe I was the one who made that statement... |
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| PorterTroll |
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| in the intro to the article he said that his hobbits could overwhelm sauron, so i was wondering how he did it |
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| CarpeGuitarrem |
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sickofpalantirs wrote: it seems like a deck in some ways you just mention a bunch of cards and stick them in a deck. also how are you going to get 4 hobbit cards in your discard pile for chance observation
That’s another of my complaints. Skirmish events are few and far between in this deck, and so getting four cards discarded-unless they’re strength-boosting conditions like A Promise-is difficult. But if your conditions are getting discarded, well, you’re also in trouble and it cancels out. |
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| orian |
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the following points were missing:
- followers
- pippin,brave decoy + everyone know strategies
- which shadow side you yourself use
also don’t make me believe your fellowships resists to forest nazguls... orc burdens will completely destroy you, especially if you choose to go second (but they most certainly will go second), as for corsairs - fierce in despair kills your deck and they will play it back every turn... I think you can with this deck resist quite ok but won’t be able to run very fast.
also, you absolutely need to plyay Rosie Cotton, barmaid , if you expect to survive to the first sites |
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:52 am |
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PorterTroll wrote: in the intro to the article he said that his hobbits could overwhelm sauron, so i was wondering how he did it
unm where did he say that I can’t find it. |
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| AnxiousChieftain |
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| In the description. |
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| WitchKingBlkCapt |
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Sorry for being away for a couple days, but here are some explanations. I did in fact get Frodo up to a strength of 68 and I can do it almost constantly. When I did do that I had 11 tokens on each Sudden Fury and one event in hand and it was also site 9 as well so maybe that helps a bit. The Businessman aren’t exactly there to win everything they are more there to help same and lose the skirmishes without overwhelm. The four cards in the discard pile for chance observation comes simple. If you get event clogged throw some of them away. Also, Humble Homestead and Tale of the Great Ring get discarded as well. As far as the shadow side i use with this I did say in the last paragraph what is best that I have found to work with them and that is the Forest Nazguls that I use with them. Corsairs are always a tough matchup and I will praise the corsair player if he has enough twilight to play Fierce in Despair over and over. Fporest Nazgul you just have to watch where you skirmish so that you can watch where their Lost in the Woods go. I also built this deck based on the one I actually built and yes it works wonderfully. Other than that I think I covered everything.
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| sickofpalantirs |
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AnxiousChieftain wrote: In the description.
ohhhh OK yeah. |
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| CarpeGuitarrem |
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I still don’t know about that Corsair match-up. Fierce in Despair isn’t exactly the key component of many Corsair bombs. A bigger portion of it is Castamir, since you can pump him up to a Base 22 Strength (Castamir + 3 exertions + Raider Halberd + Corsair Ballista), and Wind that Sped Ships ups that to 28. And if you use all of your strength boosts on Sam, Great Elf Warrior, there still could be so many corsairs that I can pile two or three on your RB.
You also misgeneralize Nazgul Corruption. It doesn’t revolve around Forest sites, except for Woody-End and The Angle. And those often get manipulated out via Ulaire Nelya, Third of the Nine Riders. Courtyard Parapet will easily add burdens, and Keening Wail +  Wraiths and Dark Swooping Shadows could very well be the death of you. Played regularly again and again, that’s probably a net gain of 2 burdens per site, at least.
And you forgot Ninja Gollum in your shadows! It’s still a viable force in Standard...especially with Shelob to take care of Sam. |
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