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How playable is White Hand Taskmaster?

5 (best)  
30%
  [ 3 ]  30%
 
4  
30%
  [ 3 ]  30%
 
3  
40%
  [ 4 ]  40%
 
2  
0%
  [ 0 ]  0%
 
1 (worst)  
0%
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Total Votes : 10
Cobra
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:11 pm
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 1202 Location: Austin, TX, USA


Remember how I said White Hand Legion would be way too conditional to see play in an actual Uruk-hai deck? I take it back. Mr. Green

Just spot another Uruk-hai Uruk and White Hand Taskmaster adds a threat for each Free Peoples culture you can spot. That’s one threat guaranteed; in most games it will be two, thanks to frequent splashes of Smeagol, Gandalf, and/or a Frodo Ring-bearer. In a few games you’ll get even more. One variety of the Three Hunters decktype comes to mind -- Frodo, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, and Gandalf (for burden removal and early-game protection) makes 5 cultures!

Attach that ability to a decent minion -- his stats might be a hair under par (see Chasing Uruk), but certainly aren’t bad -- and you’ve got a great card.
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:19 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Sweet Card! A little wimpy, but his ability is AWESOME! To bad you can’t splash him....WHATEVER HAPPENED TO SPLASHABLE CARDS?!?!?!

Anyway, I would stick him in a massive uruk wounding deck with damage +1 uruks with site control and Gothmog, Lieutenant of Morgul. Now we don’t only have damage uruks that kill with Gothmog, we have threats to finish off the fellowship! And with the new Saruman, Extremely Broken Follower....Twisted Evil

Seriously, damage site control uruks just got another AWESOME! card. 5.
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corvus
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:55 pm
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Good card. A fine boost for my IB deck Laughing

He has good stats, and will work perfectly fine along with that evil new Grishnakh... Twisted Evil
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:44 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Basically Ulaire Lemenya, Eternally Threatening with a couple minor tweaks. It’s okay. I gave it a 3.
AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:18 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
Like Dain said, basically a Ulaire Lemenya, ET but for the Uruk-hai culture. But since he’s non-unique, you can play up to 4 copies at a site. He will be added to most Uruk-hai hunter decks - they always can use some extra threats.
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:49 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
DáinIronfoot wrote:
Basically Ulaire Lemenya, Eternally Threatening with a couple minor tweaks. It’s okay. I gave it a 3.


The minor tweaks make him better than Lemenya. (Except MAYBE Nazgul)

For one, he does it free. Same cost, same stats, but you don’t have to remove 1. And he’s a hunter. Which is good and bad. Strength bonus, cancels a strength bonus, triggers Legolas, of the woodland realm, etc. Finally he’s non-unique, which means you can throw out tons of threats at one turn.

But, Lemenya is easier to splash. So I think this guy is limited to Uruk-hai decks. A perfect splash card wasted by "spot another Uruk-hai minion..."
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:14 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
You guys make good points, and the non-unique aspect especially makes it more appealing in many ways. But I’m still kind of meh about it. *shrug* Probably just me.
Cobra
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:26 pm
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 1202 Location: Austin, TX, USA
Splashable cards are by their very nature less powerful than culture-specific cards. (Or at least they’re supposed to be. Cards that are very powerful and splashable tend to get X-listed. Here’s to you, Saruman, Servant of Sauron. Cheers)

White Hand Taskmaster is a perfect example of this principle. Sure, you could splash Ulaire Lemenya, Eternally Threatening into your Uruk-hai deck. But then you end up with a card that does very little except add those threats. When Rise of Saruman hits you can play White Hand Taskmaster instead, and get those threats added in a more efficient way (less twilight, non-unique, hunter bonus). More importantly, the Taskmaster will work with all the other cards in your deck. He can help control sites, he can wield Uruk-hai possessions, you can play Violent Hurl on him, and so on.

There’s no point to comparing cards in a vacuum. Presumably you bring a whole deck to your games, not just a card. Wink And in an Uruk-hai Uruk-hai deck, this card blows away all the other threat-adding options I can think of.
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NBarden
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:44 pm
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Cobra wrote:
Splashable cards are by their very nature less powerful than culture-specific cards. (Or at least they’re supposed to be. Cards that are very powerful and splashable tend to get X-listed. Here’s to you, Saruman, Servant of Sauron. Cheers)


Gothmog, Lieutenant of Morgul? I stick him in my uruk site control deck. He’s easily splashable in any site control deck and very powerful.

And my friend ran a crazy Sauron wounding/Uruk-hai damage deck that finished up with a Moria tentacle swarm. Orc wounding softened me up, damage uruks killed me, and tentacles finally swarmed me. That deck ROCKED! And it was in theory worse than a splash deck, it was a true multiculture shadow, which is supposedly worse than a splash. But it wasn’t
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:05 pm
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NBarden wrote:
And my friend ran a crazy Sauron wounding/Uruk-hai damage deck that finished up with a Moria tentacle swarm. Orc wounding softened me up, damage uruks killed me, and tentacles finally swarmed me. That deck ROCKED!


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