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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:21 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Suspend everything you know about the storyline of LOTR for a brief moment, because the following may blow your mind otherwise. If you can do that, then proceed.

Would something like this work? Don’t worry about WHY I’d want something like this, as this is just an example of the idea in the gametext...I don’t actually have a Legolas like this in mind. Razz Just focus on the abilities. Feasible? Interesting? Stupid? Mr. Green You tell me.

(2)•Legolas, Silvan Archer Elven
Companion • Man
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Archer.
Legolas may bear any ranged weapon of any Free Peoples culture.
If bearering a ranged weapon, replace any other companion’s name in that weapon’s game text with “Legolas” and any culture with Elven.
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:29 pm; edited 2 times in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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NBarden
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:24 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Shadow wouldn’t work. Unless your opponent played a ranger weapon on Legolas...but that would be pointless. You couldn’t play a shadow weapon, because while its your turn, your shadow cards are inactive.

However, I think the FP would definitely work.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:25 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
NBarden wrote:
Shadow wouldn’t work. Unless your opponent played a ranger weapon on Legolas...but that would be pointless. You couldn’t play a shadow weapon, because while its your turn, your shadow cards are inactive.

Good point. I’ll take that off then.

NBarden wrote:
However, I think the FP would definitely work.

Okay...would you use him?
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:27 pm
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Better Legolas’ out there, such as Greenleaf, but he’s not bad. I guess it depends...

I would definitely use Aragorn’s Bow, Ranger’s Longbow with him Smile If I used him...Or Faramir’s Bow, to wound those beat up minions than clobber them with Feathered and Sword of the Fallen.
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BattleWarg
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:43 pm
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DáinIronfoot wrote:
Suspend everything you know about the storyline of LOTR for a brief moment, because the following may blow your mind otherwise. If you can do that, then proceed.

Would something like this work? Don’t worry about WHY I’d want something like this, as this is just an example of the idea in the gametext...I don’t actually have a Legolas like this in mind. Razz Just focus on the abilities. Feasible? Interesting? Stupid? Mr. Green You tell me.

(2)•Legolas, Silvan Archer Elven
Companion • Man
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Archer.
Legolas may bear any ranged weapon of any culture.
If bearering a Free Peoples ranged weapon, replace any other companion’s name in that weapon’s game text with “Legolas” and any culture with Elven.
If bearing a Shadow ranged weapon, that weapon loses all game text (except card type and class).

Interesting...
Besides the obvious race problem (but that’s on the card itself, not the ability), I think it could. Although I think it would need a slight adjustment.

I think this might work better:
"You may play ranged weapons on Legolas regardless of bearer requirements; if that ranged weapon is a Shadow card, add its twilight cost to the twilight pool.
If bearing a Free Peoples ranged weapon, replace any character’s name in that weapon’s game text with ’Legolas’ and replace any culture with Elven.
If bearing a Shadow ranged weapon, it loses all game text (except card type and class)."
I’ve actually got a Dwarven condition coming in my Dark Minions set that has a similar effect.

Now, the effect this would have...
Isengard Siege Bow can be used as a vitality boost or Corsair Ballista for strength.
Bow of Minas Tirith is useful to this...
Aragorn’s Bow recreates Legolas, Greenleaf.
Faramir’s Bow/Ranger’s Bow would be quite fun to do.

So far, there appear to be no culture references in Free Peoples ranged weapons except for bearer requirements and Elven, unless there is something in Rise of Saruman.


You can’t play Shadow cards as of right now (they have to be specifically mentioned - I believe it’s Grimbeorn that has it), true. But if this Legolas specifically says that you can play Shadow ranged weapons on him, you should be able to (although adding its twilight cost would be a good thing to take note of). And Shadow cards on your own fellowship will be active, no matter whose they are.
DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:18 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
That was my understanding about Shadow cards, too. I THOUGHT it was okay as long as it specifically said you could use them on FP characters.

That text of yours, while much more technically accurate, is way too long for one card, I think. Any way I can shorten it? Anyone?
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:55 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Yes, but you didn’t specifically say.

Maybe

Fellowship: If Legolas does not bear a ranged weapon, play a Free Peoples or shadow ranged weapon from your hand on him. If it is a shadow weapon, add twilight rather than removing it.

Then list the FP and Shadow rules.

Also, I think you should cut his default archer. His special AND archer makes him rather broken.
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macheteman
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:01 pm
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle
i understand your idea, and suspend the storyline, but this idea should not go beyond Dream Cards.

in real play, storyline should matter a great deal. however, in Dream Cards this stuff is great. i don’t particularly like it, but that’s just my gut feeling. i haven’t asked my ear-drum yet...
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:09 pm
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Since when did Durin III kill Sauron?

And when did a Lorien Swordsman kill the Witch-King?

Where on earth do you get Castamir of Umbar riding a Mumak? (new Castamir, new Mumak) And killing hobbits?

Where do you see Gollum killing Gimli?

Smeagol killing Nazgul?

Hm....?
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macheteman
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:19 pm
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that’s not what i’m talking about. what i mean is: there is a reason frodo is a Shire companion. that sort of thing.

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