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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:54 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Dáin’s DC Duos #48

This was going to go up tomorrow, but I figured...eh, what the heck. Very Happy

Now that we’re through with Gollum, it’s time to move on to a closely related culture: Shire. Of course, since Lasting Alliances is based chiefly on The Hobbit, this means lots of Bilbo Baggins.

And since I’ve already posted both versions of Bilbo before, I figured it couldn’t hurt to get them out of the way a day before we start kicking off NEW Shire cards. So here we go. Enjoy!

2Bilbo, Excitable Little Fellow Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Thorin
Ring-bound.
At the end of each fellowship phase, you may exert Bilbo and add 1 to place a pipeweed possession or a Shire, Dwarven, or Gandalf tale from your discard pile on top of your draw deck.
“‘We are plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner!’”

I know that no Gandalf tales exist yet, and only a handful of Dwarven tales, but fear not: Lasting Alliances has plenty of tales for all three of these cultures, as well as a couple more pipeweeds (possessions, as they should be...I’m talking to you, Rise of Saruman!). If you can afford to go with one of the set’s other Ring-bearers (like Duo #47’s Déagol), it might be well worth your while to go with this Bilbo and open up all those tales and pipeweeds. You may not know it just yet, but this version fits in VERY well with the set’s Dwarves (and Gandalf).

0Bilbo, Expert Burglar Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Ring-bearer (resistance 8 ). Ring-bound.
At the start of each fellowship, maneuver, and regroup phase, you may exert Bilbo to take a Shire event or condition into hand from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card and you play it this turn, its twilight cost is -1.
“He put the ring in his pocket almost without thinking: certainly it did not seem of any particular use at the moment.”

Again, this refers to a type of card we haven’t seen much since the Towers block...and not at all since Shadows. But stealth cards also make a big comeback in Lasting Alliances, especially for the Shire culture. This ability is much better than it may appear at first...not that playing conditions and events is anything to sneeze at. Very Happy

Okay, tomorrow we’ll really get into the meat of things. Until then, check out some Gollum Hobbits. Smile
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:01 pm; edited 18 times in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

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AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:11 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
Both versions of Bilbo are awesome, although you have an extra space after ’resistance 8’ in Expert Burglar’s game text.
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Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:12 pm
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
Hurray, Shire cards! Very Happy

DáinIronfoot wrote:
2Bilbo, Excitable Little Fellow Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Thorin
Ring-bound.
At the end of each fellowship phase, you may exert Bilbo and add 1 to stack a pipeweed possession or a Shire, Dwarven, or Gandalf tale from your discard pile on top of your draw deck.

“‘We are plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner!’”


I must ask, why the signet? Both Sméagol and Déagol had resistance. Unless, of course, it is your intent to incorporate signets back into the game somehow. Other than this, I like the card; I think that his latter ability should clarify where you can stack these cards from (hand, discard pile, etc).

DáinIronfoot wrote:
0Bilbo, Expert Burglar Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Ring-bearer (resistance Cool. Ring-bound.
Fellowship: Exert Bilbo to play a Shire event or condition from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card, its twilight cost is -1.

“He put the ring in his pocket almost without thinking: certainly it did not seem of any particular use at the moment.”


I love it. Just wanted to point out that this version also has a signet rather than resistance.
NBarden
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:22 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
DáinIronfoot wrote:
2Bilbo, Excitable Little Fellow Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Thorin
Ring-bound.
At the end of each fellowship phase, you may exert Bilbo and add 1 to stack a pipeweed possession or a Shire, Dwarven, or Gandalf tale from your discard pile on top of your draw deck.
“‘We are plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner!’”

May want to stack any pipeweed, seeing the conditions from RoS coming out.

I know that no Gandalf tales exist yet, and only a handful of Dwarven tales, but fear not: Lasting Alliances has plenty of tales for all three of these cultures, as well as a couple more pipeweeds (possessions, as they should be...I’m talking to you, Rise of Saruman!). If you can afford to go with one of the set’s other Ring-bearers (like Duo #47’s Déagol), it might be well worth your while to go with this Bilbo and open up all those tales and pipeweeds. You may not know it just yet, but this version fits in VERY well with the set’s Dwarves (and Gandalf).

0Bilbo, Expert Burglar Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Ring-bearer (resistance 8 ). Ring-bound.
Fellowship: Exert Bilbo to play a Shire event or condition from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card, its twilight cost is -1.
“He put the ring in his pocket almost without thinking: certainly it did not seem of any particular use at the moment.”

Stealth! I LOVE IT! Stealth rules! OH YEAH! OH YEAH!!!! w00t!

Anyway, containing myself, nice card. But no reason not to use it over Frodo. Give me some reason not to use it. As it is, kinda powerful. Consider other ARBs, Bilbo, Bearer of Things Burgled.

Oh yeah, what happened to the Bearer of... thing for ARBs?

Oh, maybe take into hand, btw. Because Crouched Down and Concerning Hobbits, and, stereotypical. Nine-Fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom will end up with kinda awkward circumstances.


Again, this refers to a type of card we haven’t seen much since the Towers block...and not at all since Shadows. But stealth cards also make a big comeback in Lasting Alliances, especially for the Shire culture. This ability is much better than it may appear at first...not that playing conditions and events is anything to sneeze at. Very Happy

Okay, tomorrow we’ll really get into the meat of things. Until then, check out some Gollum Hobbits. Smile
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:33 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
DáinIronfoot wrote:

2Bilbo, Excitable Little Fellow Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Thorin
Ring-bound.
At the end of each fellowship phase, you may exert Bilbo and add 1 to stack a pipeweed possession or a Shire, Dwarven, or Gandalf tale from your discard pile on top of your draw deck.
“‘We are plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner!’”
how about just a tale in general? it would shave off a lot of text, and it still wouldn’t be to good IMO. [b]

0•[b]Bilbo, Expert Burglar
Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Ring-bearer (resistance 8 ). Ring-bound.
Fellowship: Exert Bilbo to play a Shire event or condition from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card, its twilight cost is -1.
“He put the ring in his pocket almost without thinking: certainly it did not seem of any particular use at the moment.”
sweet

Okay, tomorrow we’ll really get into the meat of things. Until then, check out some Gollum Hobbits. Smile
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:43 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
AnxiousChieftain wrote:
Both versions of Bilbo are awesome, although you have an extra space after ’resistance 8’ in Expert Burglar’s game text.

Intentionally. If I leave the space out, I end up with Cool, which is obviously not what I want. Razz Good catch, though.

Mouth of Saruman wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
2Bilbo, Excitable Little Fellow Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Thorin
Ring-bound.
At the end of each fellowship phase, you may exert Bilbo and add 1 to stack a pipeweed possession or a Shire, Dwarven, or Gandalf tale from your discard pile on top of your draw deck.
“‘We are plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures. Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner!’”

I must ask, why the signet? Both Sméagol and Déagol had resistance. Unless, of course, it is your intent to incorporate signets back into the game somehow. Other than this, I like the card; I think that his latter ability should clarify where you can stack these cards from (hand, discard pile, etc).

My sets have both. In fact, there’s probably more unique companions (and even a couple allies) WITH signets than there are without. Don’t worry...I’m not doing it just for show. Signets are useful again in my sets, for the first time in...well, a LONG time. Smile

Oh, and the ability already does clarify. You stack it from your discard pile onto your draw deck.

NBarden wrote:
May want to stack any pipeweed, seeing the conditions from RoS coming out.

Understood, but in this case I did possessions intentionally, since the new pipeweed conditions are much more powerful than old-school pipeweed possessions. Many cards that deal with pipeweeds will say simply "pipeweed" so you can use either.

sickofpalantirs wrote:
how about just a tale in general? it would shave off a lot of text, and it still wouldn’t be to good IMO.

Hmmm. I think there was a reason I did this back in the day...I’ll go back and make sure, and if not, I’ll do just that.

NBarden wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
0Bilbo, Expert Burglar Shire
Companion • Hobbit
Strength: 3
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Ring-bearer (resistance 8 ). Ring-bound.
Fellowship: Exert Bilbo to play a Shire event or condition from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card, its twilight cost is -1.
“He put the ring in his pocket almost without thinking: certainly it did not seem of any particular use at the moment.”

Stealth! I LOVE IT! Stealth rules! OH YEAH! OH YEAH!!!! w00t!
Anyway, containing myself, nice card. But no reason not to use it over Frodo. Give me some reason not to use it. As it is, kinda powerful. Consider other ARBs, Bilbo, Bearer of Things Burgled.

I know, but since this is "main" RB of the set (there is no Frodo), I didn’t want the drawback text. He DOES have less resistance than Frodo, so that alone makes Frodo more desirable most of the time, I would think.

NBarden wrote:
Oh yeah, what happened to the Bearer of... thing for ARBs?

Same answer. He’s not really an alternate Ring-bearer; you either use him as a RB or you don’t use him at all. He doesn’t have simple ringed resistance like ARBs do. I will keep with the "Bearer of" thing for ones that are optional.

NBarden wrote:
Oh, maybe take into hand, btw. Because Crouched Down and Concerning Hobbits, and, stereotypical. Nine-Fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom will end up with kinda awkward circumstances.

Not sure what the last of those matters, as it’s not stealth, but I see your point. How about this:

Fellowship: Exert Bilbo to take a Shire event or condition into hand from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card and you play it this turn, its twilight cost is -1.

Thanks for the reviews, guys. It’s a new thread, so GP for each of you.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:53 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
DáinIronfoot wrote:
AnxiousChieftain wrote:
Both versions of Bilbo are awesome, although you have an extra space after ’resistance 8’ in Expert Burglar’s game text.

Intentionally. If I leave the space out, I end up with Cool, which is obviously not what I want. Razz Good catch, though.

Hmm... good point. Embarassed

DáinIronfoot wrote:
How about this:

Fellowship: Exert Bilbo to take a Shire event or condition into hand from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card and you play it this turn, its twilight cost is -1.


No, I think that the previous way was better. Being able to take up to 5 Shire skirmish events into hand if you use a Vitality +2 Ring seems too good. I liked it better the old way, since it only worked with fellowship events.

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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:12 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
AnxiousChieftain wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
How about this:

Fellowship: Exert Bilbo to take a Shire event or condition into hand from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card and you play it this turn, its twilight cost is -1.


No, I think that the previous way was better. Being able to take up to 5 Shire skirmish events into hand if you use a Vitality +2 Ring seems too good. I liked it better the old way, since it only worked with fellowship events.

Only problem with that is that there are NO fellowship stealth events, except for one I have in Lasting Alliances. In fact, other than a single regroup event (Deft in Their Movements) and a single maneuver event (Make Haste), ALL of Decipher’s Shire stealth cards are skirmish events. Most of mine are too.

So how about I do this:

At the start of each fellowship, maneuver, and regroup phase, you may exert Bilbo to take a Shire event or condition into hand from your discard pile. If it is a stealth card and you play it this turn, its twilight cost is -1.

Now it caters more towards the events, but that’s what I intended all along anyway. How is THAT?
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:16 pm
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
Glad to see you’re doing something with signets. I think it was something that Decipher never really touched on. It had a whole lot of potential. They could have kept it by adding it somewhere else on the card.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
Oh, and the ability already does clarify. You stack it from your discard pile onto your draw deck.


D’oh, sorry. Somehow I missed the latter half of the text. d'oh!
DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:20 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Mouth of Saruman wrote:
Glad to see you’re doing something with signets. I think it was something that Decipher never really touched on. It had a whole lot of potential. They could have kept it by adding it somewhere else on the card.

Yeah, and as you can see, I even have new ones: Thorin and Elrond. I figured that the Dwarven and Elven cultures could use their own, since Shire, Gondor, Gandalf, and even Rohan have one. By their logic, I guess Thorin’s would be brownish and Elrond’s blue.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!

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