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Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:07 pm
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
Before I make a fool of myself in a game, I want to make sure that the ruling on a card hasn’t changed since my absence. When last I played, it was said that the ability of Saruman, Of Many Colours lasted until the end of the game. Has this changed?

Thanks in advance!
NBarden
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:15 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
I wouldn’t think so. Why would it last till the end of the game? I would think it would be while Saruman is in play, wouldn’t it? Because when he’s discarded, he’s not active, so his text wouldn’t be active.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:54 pm
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I agree with NBarden, but you need the opinion of M_H, bib25 or possible AC to make sure.
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Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:21 pm
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
I remember when this card was spoiled that members of the Decipher boards said that it lasted until the end of game, which is why I’m seeking clarification.
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:22 pm
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can you give me a link to that thread?
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:11 pm
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
All card effects are only in effect while the card is in play, unless it specifically says otherwise.

So Saruman’s strength reducer only works while he is in play. When he leaves play, everyone’s strength returns to normal.
All cards do what they say.
CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:52 pm
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But...what about Radagast, the Brown? I think it was ruled that the "move limit" gametext lasts until the end of the turn.
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:05 pm
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
Yes, because the rules say that move limit modifiers last until the end of the turn. Other modifiers do not.
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Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:11 pm
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
bibfortuna25 wrote:
All card effects are only in effect while the card is in play, unless it specifically says otherwise.

So Saruman’s strength reducer only works while he is in play. When he leaves play, everyone’s strength returns to normal.


Thanks! Even though this ruined my idea for a deck (and, perhaps, a strategy article). But I’m sure I’ll think of something else. Wink

And I tried to find the thread on the Decipher message boards. It appears that everything about the set Black Rider has been purged. Think

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