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theoden,horsemaster
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:50 pm
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Location:
i had that problem a few times, i was using they effect of "Aragorn’s Bow, Rangers Longbow" and my opponent the effect of "They Feel the Precious", so i was adding threats and he was removing threats.

Does this go on and on untill one is tired of doing it??
TheJord
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:28 pm
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 486 Location: UK
The rulebook says that in an infinite loop, which is what you have found here, the Free Peoples player can decide on a number of actions for it to continue, or, it ends immediately.

I believe this to be correct...
bobtheorc
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:29 pm
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 1218 Location: Wow, its hot in Iowa
no, any time you encounter a loop like this, I believe your opponent gets to choose how long it will go on, let me see if I can find it..

here we go.

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loops
Occasionally, a game will reach a state in which a set of actions can be repeated forever.
If a loop contains one or more optional actions and one player controls them all, that player chooses a number. The loop is treated as repeating that number of times, or until another player intervenes with his own action, whichever comes first.
A player wishes to repeatedly use the ability of Sam, Faithful Companion (“Fellowship: Play Bill the Pony from your draw deck.”). He chooses a number of times this action will take place. The action is treated as repeating that number of times unless another player intervenes with a different action.
If a loop contains one or more optional actions each controlled by different players and actions by both are needed to continue the loop, the Free Peoples player chooses a number. The Shadow player then has two choices:
• He or she can choose a lower number, in which case the loop continues that number of times, with a final action in that loop by the Free Peoples player.
• He or she can agree to the number chosen by the active player, in which case the loop continues that number of times, with a final action in that loop by the Shadow player.
The Free Peoples player has Sméagol, Slinker (“Skirmish: Add a burden to make Sméagol strength +2...”) skirmishing a minion at Anduin Banks (“Skirmish: Spot your minion and remove a burden to make that minion strength +2.”). The repeated adding and removing of a burden for strength bonuses creates a loop, so the Free Peoples player names a number of iterations for these actions. The Shadow player then has two choices:
• He may name a lower number of iterations. Theloop would continue for that many iterations, with the Free Peoples player taking the final action (adding one final action at the end of the loop, if necessary for the Free Peoples player to have the final action).
• He may agree with the Free Peoples player’s choice of iterations. The loop would continue for that number of iterations, with the Shadow player taking the final action (adding one final action at the end of the loop, if necessary for the Shadow player to have the final action).
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elf lvr
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:35 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
So, in this case, the freeps would choose a number of times for this to go on. If you agree, then the loop would go that many times, but he would get the last action, a threat would be added and your minion would be wounded.

Or, you choose a lower number, and the loop repeates that many times, and the free peoples player ends up adding no threats and your minion takes no wounds.

If I understand right.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:45 pm
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I can just picture a game with a situation like that, though.

"Cut it out!"
"No, YOU cut it out!"

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"You...scruffy-looking nerf herder!"

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theoden,horsemaster
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:48 pm
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Location:
i don’t get it, just say a number??
seems weird to me.
But it happend when i was playing online, so the game still be played at the time, if i wasn’t tired of adding
theoden,horsemaster
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:46 pm
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Location:
sorry guys, but i still don’t get it.

I play aragrorn’s bow, rangers longbow and my opponent ’ they feel the precious ’

what happens??

Threat added and opponent’s nazgul wounded or not??
elf lvr
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:51 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
Since it’s an infinite loop, you both agree on how many times it continues. Depending on who chooses the number, either the freeps or shadow gets the last action. So, if you guys reach an agreement on how long the loop lasts, yes, a threat will be added and the minion will be wounded.
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theoden,horsemaster
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:55 pm
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Location:
ok but if the shadowplayer has the last action, nothing happens.

he just removes my threat i added.



choose a number, is it per cycle or not?
NBarden
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:35 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
You say, 5.

He says, sure, and then he gets the last action.

OR

You say, 15,000.

He says, "No way, that’s way to long." and names "2".

You get the last action.

You throw out a number.

He may agree, he gets the last action.

If he states a lower number, you get the last action.

TACTIC HERE! Name an outrageously long number. You either have to continue the loop that long, or your opponent will give you the last action Twisted Evil. (Of course, it could easily backfire, with your opponent agreeing and you having to continue that long, finally giving him the last action Crying or Very sad)
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