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menace64
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:37 pm
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 836 Location: Wichita, Kansas
Frankly, I’m pretty surprised that this hasn’t been DC-ed to death already.

I want to create a whole playable twilight Wraith sub-culture. Here’s my first pass.

1 Into Shadow Wraith
Condition
Strength -1
Twilight. To play, exert a twilight minion or discard 2 twilight cards from hand. Bearer must be a companion. Limit 1 per bearer.
While a twilight minion is assigned to a skirmish, bearer is resistance -1.
"Then Frodo felt himself falling, and the roaring and confusion seemed to rise and engulf him together with his enemies."

Just a quick note on that card. A twilight condition borne by a companion makes that companion a ’twilight companion’, but doesn’t add to the number of twilight cards you can spot (so it still only counts as 1 twilight card).

1 The Devouring Darkness Wraith
Event • Skirmish
Make a twilight minion strength +1 for each other twilight card you spot (limit +5).
"...three or four tall black figures were standing there on the slope, looking down on them. So black were they that they seemed like black holes in the deep shade behind them."

6 •Ulaire Attea, Slave of Shadow Wraith
Minion • Nazgul
Strength-12
Vitality-3
Roaming-3
Twilight.
For every 2 twilight cards you spot, Ulaire Attea’s twilight cost is -1.
While skirmishing a twilight companion, Ulaire Attea is strength +3.
"...dim and dark, the shapes became terribly clear. He was able to see beneath their black wrappings."

5 •Ulaire Cantea, Shrouded in Shade Wraith
Minion • Nazgul
Strength-10
Vitality-3
Roaming-3
Twilight.
While you can spot 3 other twilight cards, Ulaire Cantea may not take wounds.
Skirmish: If skirmishing a twilight companion, exert Ulaire Cantea to discard a possession borne by that companion.
"...but something seemed to be compelling him to disregard all warnings, and he longed to yield."

8 •The Witch-king, Most Perilous of Phantoms Wraith
Minion • Nazgul
Strength-14
Vitality-4
Roaming-3
Fierce. Twilight.
Each twilight minion is strength +1.
Each twilight companion is resistance -2.
"Terror overcame Pippin and Merry, and they threw themselves flat on the ground. Sam shrank to Frodo’s side. Frodo was hardly less terrified than his companions; he was quaking as if he was bitter cold, but his terror was swallowed up in a sudden temptation to put on the Ring."

And a few more...

3 Dead Lights Wraith
Minion • Wraith
Strength-6
Vitality-3
Roaming-4
Enduring. Twilight.
Each time you play a twilight card, you may exert this minion to take a twilight card into hand from your discard pile.
“‘Yes, they are all around us,’ he whispered. ‘The tricksy lights. Candles of corpses, yes, yes. Don’t you heed them! Don’t look!’”

0 Torches of Shadow Wraith
Minion • Wraith
Strength-2
Vitality-4
Roaming-4
Enduring. Twilight. To play, spot a twilight card.
The twilight cost of each twilight card is -1.
Regroup: Exert this minion to return another twilight minion to your hand.
“Suddenly he stumbled against Frodo, who was standing lost in thought, looking at the pale lights. His hands hung stiff at his sides; water and slime were dripping from them.”
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Thranduil
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:04 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
I love twilight minions!

menace64 wrote:
Just a quick note on that card. A twilight condition borne by a companion makes that companion a ’twilight companion’, but doesn’t add to the number of twilight cards you can spot (so it still only counts as 1 twilight card).

This seems to me a little silly, I’m afraid. Why don’t you just say on Into Shadow ’Bearer gains ’Twilight’?

Love Attea. Cantea’s subtitle should be Shrouded in Shadow (I just think it sounds better) but cool nonetheless (with its oldschool nazgul possession discard).

Should the Witch-King say ’OTHER twilight minion?’ Nice though.

Dead Lights has an unbelievably rocking ability for an Enduring guy with 3 vitality! I’d probably take its vitality down 1.

Torches of Shadow looks maybe overpowered. Should cost at least 1 and/or have ’To play, spot a twilight MINION’.

Good stuff.

Thranduil
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:08 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
menace64 wrote:
Frankly, I’m pretty surprised that this hasn’t been DC-ed to death already.

Agreed. There’s entirely too few twilight minions.

menace64 wrote:
1 Into Shadow Wraith
Condition
Strength -1
Twilight. To play, exert a twilight minion or discard 2 twilight cards from hand. Bearer must be a companion. Limit 1 per bearer.
While a twilight minion is assigned to a skirmish, bearer is resistance -1.
"Then Frodo felt himself falling, and the roaring and confusion seemed to rise and engulf him together with his enemies."

Just a quick note on that card. A twilight condition borne by a companion makes that companion a ’twilight companion’, but doesn’t add to the number of twilight cards you can spot (so it still only counts as 1 twilight card).

Personally, I think it should add to the number of twilight cards you can spot, or say simply "bearer gains twilight". But I like the idea a lot.

menace64 wrote:
1 The Devouring Darkness Wraith
Event • Skirmish
Make a twilight minion strength +1 for each other twilight card you spot (limit +5).
"...three or four tall black figures were standing there on the slope, looking down on them. So black were they that they seemed like black holes in the deep shade behind them."

Awesome.

menace64 wrote:
6 •Ulaire Attea, Slave of Shadow Wraith
Minion • Nazgul
Strength-12
Vitality-3
Roaming-3
Twilight.
For every 2 twilight cards you spot, Ulaire Attea’s twilight cost is -1.
While skirmishing a twilight companion, Ulaire Attea is strength +3.
"...dim and dark, the shapes became terribly clear. He was able to see beneath their black wrappings."

Awesome! GP

menace64 wrote:
5 •Ulaire Cantea, Shrouded in Shade Wraith
Minion • Nazgul
Strength-10
Vitality-3
Roaming-3
Twilight.
While you can spot 3 other twilight cards, Ulaire Cantea may not take wounds.
Skirmish: If skirmishing a twilight companion, exert Ulaire Cantea to discard a possession borne by that companion.
"...but something seemed to be compelling him to disregard all warnings, and he longed to yield."

Neat. Smile

menace64 wrote:
8 •The Witch-king, Most Perilous of Phantoms Wraith
Minion • Nazgul
Strength-14
Vitality-4
Roaming-3
Fierce. Twilight.
Each twilight minion is strength +1.
Each twilight companion is resistance -2.
"Terror overcame Pippin and Merry, and they threw themselves flat on the ground. Sam shrank to Frodo’s side. Frodo was hardly less terrified than his companions; he was quaking as if he was bitter cold, but his terror was swallowed up in a sudden temptation to put on the Ring."

Brilliantly simple and evil. Twisted Evil

menace64 wrote:
3 Dead Lights Wraith
Minion • Wraith
Strength-6
Vitality-3
Roaming-4
Enduring. Twilight.
Each time you play a twilight card, you may exert this minion to take a twilight card into hand from your discard pile.
“‘Yes, they are all around us,’ he whispered. ‘The tricksy lights. Candles of corpses, yes, yes. Don’t you heed them! Don’t look!’”

Perhaps limit that ability a bit, even if it’s just once per phase.

menace64 wrote:
0 Torches of Shadow Wraith
Minion • Wraith
Strength-2
Vitality-4
Roaming-4
Enduring. Twilight. To play, spot a twilight card.
The twilight cost of each twilight card is -1.
Regroup: Exert this minion to return another twilight minion to your hand.
“Suddenly he stumbled against Frodo, who was standing lost in thought, looking at the pale lights. His hands hung stiff at his sides; water and slime were dripping from them.”

I think it needs to cost 2, especially since it reduces twilight cards’ cost (including itself).

I like these cards!
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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Thranduil
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:32 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Dain Ironfoot wrote:
I think it needs to cost 2, especially since it reduces twilight cards’ cost (including itself).

I was under the impression that it didn’t include itself. Dain Ironfoot, King Under the Mountain certainly doesn’t.

Thranduil
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:35 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Thranduil wrote:
Dain Ironfoot wrote:
I think it needs to cost 2, especially since it reduces twilight cards’ cost (including itself).

I was under the impression that it didn’t include itself. Dain Ironfoot, King Under the Mountain certainly doesn’t.

Ah. You may be right, but I had thought it was good practice, at least, to say "other" in there to avoid confusion. Like: "the twilight cost of each other Dwarf is -1".

But it may not be necessary, I guess.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

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Thranduil
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:39 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
I’d forgotten Dain said other Dwarves. Embarassed Nevertheless, Encirclement certainly doesn’t apply to itself.

Thranduil
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:41 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
*shrug* Like I said, it may not be necessary...kind of a fuzzy area. But I think it would be good to clarify and avoid that fuzziness.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

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Thranduil
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:42 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
I agree!
I’m glad we’ve had this discussion. Mr. Green

Thranduil
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:04 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
menace64 wrote:

0 Torches of Shadow Wraith
Minion • Wraith
Strength-2
Vitality-4
Roaming-4
Enduring. Twilight. To play, spot a twilight card.
The twilight cost of each twilight card is -1.
Regroup: Exert this minion to return another twilight minion to your hand.
“Suddenly he stumbled against Frodo, who was standing lost in thought, looking at the pale lights. His hands hung stiff at his sides; water and slime were dripping from them.”

make him cost 1.

all the other cards were SWEET! GP
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