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Thranduil
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:46 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Right Dain, you asked for this, and now you’re going to get what’s coming to you.
I’ve obviously got some keywords and mechanics in mind, but I’ll start with some simpler stuff, which means some juicy dwarves (because, after all, isn’t that what The Hobbit is really about?). Here’s a glimpse into the strategy with a couple of conditions and events, along with some hardy folk of the race of durin:

0 Caverns Old Dwarven
Event • Skirmish
Add a threat to make a Dwarf strength +2 and damage +1 (or damage +2 if at an underground site).
Far over the Misty Mountains cold...
H1 C 12

0 Face of Danger Dwarven
Event • Fellowship
Spot a Dwarf companion and add a threat to draw 2 cards.
’We shall soon before the break of day start on our long journey, a journey from which some of us, perhaps all of us... may never return.’
H1 C 28

1 Great Warriors Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
While you can spot 3 threats, each Dwarf is damage +1.
... for they sounded much too adventurous...
H1 C 36

2 • Danger Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
While threats cannot be added, each Dwarf is Vitality +1.
... all traveling expenses guaranteed in any event, funeral expenses to be defrayed by us and our representatives...
H1 R 14

2 • Ori, Faithful Companion Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Each time a Dwarven event is played, you may exert Ori to add or remove a threat.
Gandalf whistled again; but Nori and Ori were there almost before he had stopped...
H1 U 43

2 • Nori, Faithful Companion Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Each time a shadow card removes a threat, you may exert Nori to add or remove a threat.
He had hardly turned the knob before they were all inside, bowing and saying ’at your service’ one after another.
H1 U 45

4 • Thorin, Oakenshield Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Damage +1
While you can spot 3 Dwarves, Thorin is strength +1 for each threat you can spot.
It is said that Thorin’s shield was cloven and he cast it away and he hewed off with his axe a branch of oak and held it in his left hand to ward off the strokes of his foes...
H1 R 55

4 • Balin, Son of Fundin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength 7
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
Bilbo is Strength +1.
Skirmish: Exert Bilbo to make Balin strength +2.
Then Balin, who had grasped Bilbo’s plan better than the rest, led an attack.
H1 R 5

3 • Gloin, Dwarf of Erebor Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength 7
Vitality 3
Resistance 6
Gloin’s twilight cost is -1 in your starting fellowship.
Fellowship: Exert Gloin to reveal the top 3 cards of your draw deck. For each of those cards, you may add a threat to take it into hand. Replace the rest in the same order.
’What!’ cried Gloin. ’One of those simpletons down in the shire?’
H1 R 33

3 • Dwalin, Brother of Balin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength 7
Vitality 3
Resistance 6
While you can spot a Dwarf, Dwalin’s twilight cost is -1.
Skirmish: Exert Dwalin to make a Dwarf Damage +1
It was a dwarf with a blue beard tucked into a golden belt, and very bright eyes under his dark green hood.
H1 R 21

2 • Dori, Decent Fellow Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength 6
Vitality 3
Resistance 6
Each time a Dwarven card removes one or more threats, you may heal a Dwarf.
He made the hobbit scramble on his shoulders as best he could with his tied hands, and then off they went at a run...
H1 R 18

1 Hilt of Sword Dwarven
Event • Skirmish
Add 2 threats to make a Dwarf strength +6.
On silver necklaces they strung / The flowering stars on crowns they hung.
H1 U 39

0 May Never Return Dwarven
Event • Response
If a Dwarf wins a skirmish, add or remove a threat.
’You will all (possibly) live to thank me...’
H1 C 44

2 • Race of Durin Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
Tale. Each time a Dwarf is about to exert, you may add a threat and 1 to place no token for that exertion.
He was the father of the eldest race of dwarves, the Longbeards...
H1 R 49

0 Long Awaited Vengeance Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
Response: If a Dwarf companion is killed, discard this condition to remove all threats. Wound a companion and a minion for each threat removed in this way.
’We still mean to get it back, and to bring our curses home to Smaug - if we can.’
H1 R 43

0 Dungeons Deep Dwarven
Event • Skirmish
Add a threat to make a Dwarf strength +3 (and Damage +1 if he or she is skirmishing an Orc).
The dwarves of yore made mighty spells... // In places deep where dark things sleep / In hollow halls beneath the fells.

1 Stout Companions Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
While you can spot 4 threats, each Dwarf is strength +1.
For one thing, Bombur was immensely fat and heavy.
H1 C 52

1 • Dwarven Fortitude Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
While you can spot 5 threats, no Dwarf can take more than 1 wound in a skirmish.
... for dwarves can roll along at a tremendous pace, I can tell you, when they have to...
H1 U 26

0 Dwarven Mail Dwarven
Possession • Armor
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
Response: If bearer is about to exert, add a threat (or discard a possession borne by bearer) to place no token for that exertion.
Each one of his folk was clad in a hauberk of steel mail that hung to his knees.
H1 U 27

2 Dwarven Battleaxe Dwarven
Possession • Hand Weapon
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
While bearer is Damage +X, bearer is strength +X.
Thorin wielded his axe with mighty strokes, and nothing seemed to harm him.
H1 U 25

Thranduil
Last edited by Thranduil on Fri May 25, 2007 7:54 am; edited 10 times in total
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:41 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:


(0) Caverns Old Dwarven
Event • Skirmish
Add a threat to make a Dwarf strength +2 and damage +1.
Far over the Misty Mountains cold...
H1 C 12
nice put[] around the twilight symbols

(0) Face of Danger Dwarven
Event • Fellowship
Spot a Dwarf companion and add a threat to draw 2 cards.
’We shall soon before the break of day start on our long journey, a journey from which some of us, perhaps all of us... may never return.’
H1 C 28
sure

(1) Great Warriors Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
While you can spot 3 threats, each Dwarf is damage +1.
... for they sounded much too adventurous...
H1 C 36
possibly consider making it unique

(2) • Danger Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
While threats cannot be added, each Dwarf is Vitality +1.
... all traveling expenses guaranteed in any event, funeral expenses to be defrayed by us and our representatives...
H1 R 14
so while the threats are maxed out basically?

(2) • Ori, Faithful Companion Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Each time a Dwarven event is played, you may exert Ori to remove a threat.
Gandalf whistled again; but Nori and Ori were there almost before he had stopped...
H1 U 43
make it or add

(2) • Nori, Faithful Companion Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Each time a shadow card removes a threat, you may exert Nori to remove a threat.
He had hardly turned the knob before they were all inside, bowing and saying ’at your service’ one after another.
H1 U 45
ditto

(4) • Thorin, Oakenshield Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Damage +1
While you can spot 3 Dwarves, Thorin is strength +1 for each threat you can spot.
It is said that Thorin’s shield was cloven and he cast it away and he hewed off with his axe a branch of oak and held it in his left hand to ward off the strokes of his foes...
H1 R 55

nice
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:08 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Thranduil wrote:
Right Dain, you asked for this, and now you’re going to get what’s coming to you.
I’ve obviously got some keywords and mechanics in mind, but I’ll start with some simpler stuff, which means some juicy dwarves (because, after all, isn’t that what The Hobbit is really about?). Here’s a glimpse into the strategy with a couple of conditions and events, along with some hardy folk of the race of durin:

Good stuff. Let’s get this party started!

Thranduil wrote:
(0) Caverns Old Dwarven
Event • Skirmish
Add a threat to make a Dwarf strength +2 and damage +1.
Far over the Misty Mountains cold...
H1 C 12

Good.

Thranduil wrote:
(0) Face of Danger Dwarven
Event • Fellowship
Spot a Dwarf companion and add a threat to draw 2 cards.
’We shall soon before the break of day start on our long journey, a journey from which some of us, perhaps all of us... may never return.’
H1 C 28

Nice and simple. Thumbs Up

Thranduil wrote:
(1) Great Warriors Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
While you can spot 3 threats, each Dwarf is damage +1.
... for they sounded much too adventurous...
H1 C 36

Yeah, I’d make it unique.

Thranduil wrote:
(2) • Danger Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
While threats cannot be added, each Dwarf is Vitality +1.
... all traveling expenses guaranteed in any event, funeral expenses to be defrayed by us and our representatives...
H1 R 14

Cool idea!

Thranduil wrote:
(2) • Ori, Faithful Companion Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Each time a Dwarven event is played, you may exert Ori to remove a threat.
Gandalf whistled again; but Nori and Ori were there almost before he had stopped...
H1 U 43

Pretty simple, but good.

Thranduil wrote:
(2) • Nori, Faithful Companion Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Each time a shadow card removes a threat, you may exert Nori to remove a threat.
He had hardly turned the knob before they were all inside, bowing and saying ’at your service’ one after another.
H1 U 45

Yeah, that works.

Thranduil wrote:
(4) • Thorin, Oakenshield Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Damage +1
While you can spot 3 Dwarves, Thorin is strength +1 for each threat you can spot.
It is said that Thorin’s shield was cloven and he cast it away and he hewed off with his axe a branch of oak and held it in his left hand to ward off the strokes of his foes...
H1 R 55

Good! THAT is the kind of powerful card Thorin deserves!

GP for the neat, neat cards.
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Thranduil
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:06 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Thanks a lot for reviews. I’m going on to some eagles now (Flyer = can only take 1 wound in each phase, regardless of its source):

3 Eagle Rescuer Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength 6
Vitality 3
Resistance 6
Flyer.
To play spot a Gandalf wizard or Eagle.
You may play this companion any time you could play a skirmish event. When this companion is played, you may wound a minion.
Other birds flew to the tree-tops and seized the dwarves...
H1 U 95

5 • Gwaihir, Lord of the Eagles Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength 8
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
Flyer.
For each Gandalf wizard you can spot, Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -2.
You may play this companion any time you could play a regroup event. When this companion is played, you may discard a minion.
The Lord of the Eagles.. had eyes that could... see a rabbit moving on the ground a mile below.
H1 R 107

0 Looking Ahead Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Discard a Gandalf wizard or Eagle.
’Where did you go, if I may ask?’
H1 C 113

0 Looking Behind Gandalf
Event • Regroup
Play a Gandalf wizard (or add 1 to play an Eagle) from your discard pile to discard up to 2 minions.
It was the wizard’s voice that had kept the trolls bickering and quarelling until the light came and made an end of them.
H1 C 114

3 • Lonely Pinnacle Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
Each time an eagle is played, you may exert it to take a Gandalf event into hand from your discard pile.
Fellowship: Discard an Eagle or play an Eagle from your discard pile. Discard this condition.
The goblins hated the eagles... but could not reach their lofty seats...
H1 U 112

And of course, no eagles would be complete without our resident organiser of adventures:

4 • Gandalf, Excellent Guide Gandalf
Companion • Wizard
Strength 7
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
When this companion is played, you may choose one: replace one of your sites on the site path with one from your adventure deck; or play the fellowship’s next site.
... it was a very slow business, even guided by Gandalf, who seemed to know his way about pretty well.
H1 R 101

Thranduil
Last edited by Thranduil on Sun May 06, 2007 3:19 pm; edited 1 time in total
Foresight
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:18 am
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 557 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Thranduil wrote:
Thanks a lot for reviews. I’m going on to some eagles now (Flyer = can only take 1 wound in each phase, regardless of its source):


Cool keyword, but I can see it being slightly overpowered.

Thranduil wrote:
3 Eagle Rescuer Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength 6
Vitality 3
Resistance 6
Flyer.
While you can spot Gwaihir or a Gandalf wizard, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
You may play this companion any time you could play a skirmish event. When this companion is played, you may wound a minion.
Other birds flew to the tree-tops and seized the dwarves...
H1 U 95


I’d eliminate the first sentence, and give it a spotting requirement such as "To play, spot an eagle or a Gandalf wizard." Nice idea behind it. Thumbs Up

Thranduil wrote:
5 • Gwaihir, Lord of the Eagles Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength 8
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
Flyer.
For each Gandalf wizard you can spot, Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -2.
You may play this companion any time you could play a regroup event. When this companion is played, you may discard a minion.
The Lord of the Eagles.. had eyes that could... see a rabbit moving on the ground a mile below.
H1 R 107


For a rare, looks pretty good! I’d make it say "For each Gandalf wizard you can spot, Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -1." Otherwise he could potentially come out for 1.

Thranduil wrote:
0 Looking Ahead Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Discard a Gandalf wizard or Eagle.
’Where did you go, if I may ask?’
H1 C 113


Heh, can see why it’s a common.

Thranduil wrote:
0 Looking Behind Gandalf
Event • Regroup
Play a Gandalf wizard (or Eagle if you add 1) from your discard pile to discard up to 2 minions.
It was the wizard’s voice that had kept the trolls bickering and quarelling until the light came and made an end of them.
H1 C 114


Hmm, wow! I’d make it an uncommon. Also make it cost 2 or 3 instead of 0.

Thranduil wrote:
3 • Lonely Pinnacle Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
Each time an eagle is played, you may exert it to take a Gandalf event into hand from your discard pile.
Fellowship: Discard an Eagle or play an Eagle from your discard pile. Discard this condition.
The goblins hated the eagles... but could not reach their lofty seats...
H1 U 112


Limit the first sentence’s ability with "once each turn". I like it!

Thranduil wrote:
4 • Gandalf, Excellent Guide Gandalf
Companion • Wizard
Strength 7
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
When this companion is played, you may replace one of your sites on the site path with one from your adventure deck. or play the fellowship’s next site.
... it was a very slow business, even guided by Gandalf, who seemed to know his way about pretty well.


Hmm, very good! Thumbs Up

All in all, you have some good DCs here. GP for the ideas.
Thranduil
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:28 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
foresight wrote:
Cool keyword, but I can see it being slightly overpowered.

It can also kill you in the archery phase! There definitely aren’t any Eagle ring-bearers! Also, you’ll note that the eagles have worse stats for their cost to compensate.

foresight wrote:
I’d eliminate the first sentence, and give it a spotting requirement such as "To play, spot an eagle or a Gandalf wizard."

I take that point.

foresight wrote:
For a rare, looks pretty good! I’d make it say "For each Gandalf wizard you can spot, Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -1." Otherwise he could potentially come out for 1

Believe it or not, that was, in fact my intention! He can come out for 0 with another card I haven’t spoiled! If you think it’s too good though...

foresight wrote:
Hmm, wow! I’d make it an uncommon. Also make it cost 2 or 3 instead of 0.

Are you sure? You still have to pay for the companion. Narrow escape is free and this one is quite similar to it.

Thanks for the review. I would be putting the GP symbol into my post, but I don’t know how to get it!

Thranduil
Foresight
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:32 am
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 557 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Thranduil wrote:
Are you sure? You still have to pay for the companion. Narrow escape is free and this one is quite similar to it.


Yeah, but Narrow Escape deals with hobbits. We’re talking about Gandalf Eagles and Wizards here! Playing a Gandalf wizard or an Eagle from the discard pile, discarding 2 minions, and taking a Gandalf event back with the condition seems like the card needed to be more than 0 cost. Just my Two Cents. Thanks for the GP, only one more to go before I can use an avatar and a signature!
Thranduil
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:53 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
foresight wrote:
Playing a Gandalf wizard or an Eagle from the discard pile, discarding 2 minions, and taking a Gandalf event back with the condition seems like the card needed to be more than 0 cost.

I accept your concerns, but I’m unconvinced. The condition is 3 cost and requires an exertion to take the event back. Plus, without event recursion to discard and replay the eagles, the strategy dies as they’re not actually that good in a fight, especially for their cost. I’ll playtest them some more, and thanks a lot for your thoughts. Think

Thranduil
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:48 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:

3 Eagle Rescuer Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength 6
Vitality 3
Resistance 6
Flyer
While you can spot Gwaihir or a Gandalf wizard, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
You may play this companion any time you could play a skirmish event. When this companion is played, you may wound a minion.
Other birds flew to the tree-tops and seized the dwarves...
H1 U 95
nice

5 • Gwaihir, Lord of the Eagles Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength 8
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
Flyer
For each Gandalf wizard you can spot, Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -2.
You may play this companion any time you could play a regroup event. When this companion is played, you may discard a minion.
The Lord of the Eagles.. had eyes that could... see a rabbit moving on the ground a mile below.
H1 R 107
change the keyword to something like flight or winged or something. I don’t like flyer. make the reducing ability -1.

0 Looking Ahead Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Discard a Gandalf wizard or Eagle.
’Where did you go, if I may ask?’
H1 C 113
I think i see the use of this

0 Looking Behind Gandalf
Event • Regroup
Play a Gandalf wizard (or Eagle if you add 1) from your discard pile to discard up to 2 minions.
It was the wizard’s voice that had kept the trolls bickering and quarelling until the light came and made an end of them.
H1 C 114
or add 1 to play an eagle is how it should be worded.

3 • Lonely Pinnacle Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
Each time an eagle is played, you may exert it to take a Gandalf event into hand from your discard pile.
Fellowship: Discard an Eagle or play an Eagle from your discard pile. Discard this condition.
The goblins hated the eagles... but could not reach their lofty seats...
H1 U 112
nice

4 • Gandalf, Excellent Guide Gandalf
Companion • Wizard
Strength 7
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
When this companion is played, you may replace one of your sites on the site path with one from your adventure deck. or play the fellowship’s next site.
... it was a very slow business, even guided by Gandalf, who seemed to know his way about pretty well.
Thranduil

make it choose one. not the way you have it
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elf lvr
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:56 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
Thranduil wrote:
Thanks a lot for reviews. I’m going on to some eagles now (Flyer = can only take 1 wound in each phase, regardless of its source):

3 Eagle Rescuer Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength 6
Vitality 3
Resistance 6
Flyer
While you can spot Gwaihir or a Gandalf wizard, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
You may play this companion any time you could play a skirmish event. When this companion is played, you may wound a minion.
Other birds flew to the tree-tops and seized the dwarves...
H1 U 95
Interesting. Pretty good, though.

5 • Gwaihir, Lord of the Eagles Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength 8
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
Flyer
For each Gandalf wizard you can spot, Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -2.
You may play this companion any time you could play a regroup event. When this companion is played, you may discard a minion.
The Lord of the Eagles.. had eyes that could... see a rabbit moving on the ground a mile below.
H1 R 107
Not bad. Maybe a bit more strength and cost 6?

0 Looking Ahead Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Discard a Gandalf wizard or Eagle.
’Where did you go, if I may ask?’
H1 C 113
Interesting... I can see the usefulness, esp. with extra copies of Gwaihir lying around.

0 Looking Behind Gandalf
Event • Regroup
Play a Gandalf wizard (or Eagle if you add 1) from your discard pile to discard up to 2 minions.
It was the wizard’s voice that had kept the trolls bickering and quarelling until the light came and made an end of them.
H1 C 114
Okay, this works nicely with the last card. With Gwaihir, this makes for an easy double (or triple, with Raddy). I like it!

3 • Lonely Pinnacle Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
Each time an eagle is played, you may exert it to take a Gandalf event into hand from your discard pile.
Fellowship: Discard an Eagle or play an Eagle from your discard pile. Discard this condition.
The goblins hated the eagles... but could not reach their lofty seats...
H1 U 112
Pretty cool.

And of course, no eagles would be complete without our resident organiser of adventures:

4 • Gandalf, Excellent Guide Gandalf
Companion • Wizard
Strength 7
Vitality 4
Resistance 7
When this companion is played, you may replace one of your sites on the site path with one from your adventure deck. or play the fellowship’s next site.
... it was a very slow business, even guided by Gandalf, who seemed to know his way about pretty well.
Change that period to a comma and it’s perfect. Wink

Thranduil


Just another nitpick, there needs to be a period after "Flyer" on each of your cards. That’s nothing major, I just like proper formatting. It makes me happy. Very Happy

GP for the awesome cards! They fit eagles perfectly, "flying" in or out of play at their leisure.
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