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![]() Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:54 pm |
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...to play with any of the new Treachery and Deceit cards? Are they really as broken or really as balanced as what word of mouth says on here? Or are they entirely something unexpected? I realize the set is new and just came out, but I know there’s some early birds who get the cards and experiment with them right off the bat! My local card shop as a matter of fact got T & D in Tuesday, and some friends from my player group already bought some! I can’t say that they’ve played any games yet with the new cards, but I will rip and tear into my group to get some cards banned from our player group before I play any games with ’em!
Also, one person in my player group says that all cards that aren’t culturally reinforced from T & D should be banned. Do you guys think that’s true, or are there many exceptions to that? Whisper in the Dark and The Faithful Stone come to mind as some non-culturally enforced cards that need banning. |
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![]() Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:56 pm |
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Whisper in the Dark is easy to beat. Real easy. With all the follower discarding, it gets creamed easily, and even so, the effect of the card isn’t that powerful.
The Faithful Stone is enforced, maybe not culturally, but think Armor, Coat of Mail, Heavy Chain. Its just OP in other ways.
I should get my T&D card tomorrow or so. I’ll let you know how Elven Armaments works for me. |
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![]() Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:58 pm |
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NBarden wrote: Whisper in the Dark is easy to beat. Real easy. With all the follower discarding, it gets creamed easily, and even so, the effect of the card isn’t that powerful.
Well, considering that the card is non-unique and 4 of them out = 4 exertions every maneuver phase, it seems too easy to put in ANY wounding deck.  wounding, archery, any  deck,  Not This Time wounding, ect. the list goes on. One card should not open such easy exertion up for any culture. Either this card is the problem, or Saruman, Servant of Sauron is. I’m going for the former..  |
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![]() Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:19 pm |
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| Um...did you miss what I said? First, condition discarding. Second, follower discarding, Third, you need Saruman, Servant of Sauron to make sure it works, and if you don’t, then you’re just sticking it in there and hoping someone packs followers. |
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![]() Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:24 pm |
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Anyone who won’t pack Saruman, Servant of Sauron with this needs to be drug into the street and shot.  Also, not all decks have easy condition discarding! I know  and  will have a field day against it, but what about those Shirelings? Or those Dwarves? It seems mandatory with this card now that all decks should pack some condition discarding of some sort or be completely owned! Follower discarding isn’t so universal either, it’s only  and  to my knowledge unless they came up with more horns. |
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![]() Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:27 pm |
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| Get on Gmail right now! I want to debate this without using up multiple posts! |
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| whisper in the dark = hand clog |
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yeah, whisper in the dark isn’t that good, it might be nice in some decks though.
Frenzy of Arrows, The Faithful stone and Elven armaments at the moment are the only ones that seem overpowered (destroyers and usurpers could be broken against a deck heavy with defense bonuses, but that is unlikely)
Faithful stone is expensive and is easily discarded and is useless against nazguls and archery decks so I’m not sure it is that broken.
Frenzy of Arrows and Elven armaments are broken as one of the only ways to avoid the heavy archery of the first is with the second and the second also stops loads of other archery decks like evil men archery...
of course armaments wouldn’t be used in one of the elves most powerful decks: elven archery. but in elvents it is a killer! (bonus strength + vitality and skips archery phase!) |
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