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Celebrimbor
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:25 pm
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN
Does Roaming penalty increase the twilight cost of a minion by 2 ??

Or is it something I must perform after playing the card?

I think the former over the latter is more accurate, but I want to clear this up.
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elf lvr
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:28 pm
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I believe it raises the twilight cost by 2.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:30 pm
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So if I play a minion with Uruk Regular, spot 3 Uruk-Hai, I can exert him to play an Uruk Foot Soldier free?
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elf lvr
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:32 pm
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I believe so, yes.

I could be totally wrong, but this is how I think it is.

Or with weapon of opportunity on an originally 3-cost uruk-hai, roaming could make it, in effect 5-cost, so you could draw a card...

I think.

Aw, heck, where’s the rulebook?
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AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:33 pm
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From the rulebook:

Roaming
Each minion is normally played to a certain range of sites beginning with the minion’s site number. If the minion is played to (or is currently at) a site that has a lower site number, that minion is roaming. The player must pay a roaming penalty by removing an additional two twilight tokens when playing that minion.

So it doesn’t sound like it adds to twilight cost; it’s just an extra cost you have to play in order to play the minion.

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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:25 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
Yep, AC’s right. No twilight increase. That’s why a lot of cards like Orc Ambusher say "The roaming penalty for each Sauron minion you play is -1."
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:25 pm
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Ah. Okay. I’ll have to remember that.
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Merrick_Hale
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:13 pm
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas
AP is correct. You can decrease the base cost of a minion to 0 but if it is still roaming, you must pay the roaming penalty (unless of course you have some way of specifically reducing the roaming penalty such as on Orc Ambusher and Orc Scouting Band).

NBarden - With Weapon of opportunity you only look at the printed twilight cost of the target card when making any twilight cost checks once the card is in play. That means that the printed value of the card must be 4 or more in order to draw the card with weapon of opportunity (per the rules for Twilight Cost in the Comprehensive Rules 4.0)

twilight cost
Cards already in play that affect another card’s twilight cost have that effect only when the card to be modified is coming into play.
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Celebrimbor
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:35 pm
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN
OK thats just what I was thinking, roaming is a "penalty" that is "required" to pay to play the minion. So, I obviously couldn’t play desert lord for just 6 twilight and skip the roaming if there wasn’t enough tokens.

Thanks for the help. Cool
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