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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:26 pm

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Anyone ever built a really good Isengard

Man deck? They have lots of ways to exert and weaken companions, but I’m worried they will have trouble finishing companions off....

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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:32 pm

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i did once, i think i threw in some isengard orcs like isengard retainer to finish companions off... so yeah ill see if i still have a workable decklist

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AgentDrake

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:41 pm

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DáinIronfoot wrote:

Anyone ever built a really good Isengard

Man deck? They have lots of ways to exert and weaken companions, but I’m worried they will have trouble finishing companions off....

What?!?

Did you finally get cards?

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Actually, I’d be interested in seeing a working Isengard

men deck, too. I’ve tried, but never succeeded.

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:43 pm

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Yes, I now own LOTS of cards, actually. Still only have one-and-a-half working decks, but I play on SdA a lot now. Smile

Shieldmaiden

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:52 pm

Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 389 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

AND he’s got his own trading list, as well! Laughing

He’s pretty good on SdA, actually.

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elf lvr

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:38 pm

Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell

I once had one.

The one bad thing about them, though, is they really only work best against decks that use men. Against Elf or, especially Gandalf

decks, they crumble. Also, Elven

and

have a fair amount of condition discarding, so it’s really nearly impossible to pull of victories against those (unless it’s Gandalf

men, but even so, condition discarding...)

So, it’s an extremely meta-based deck, but not wholly impossible.

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NBarden

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:25 am

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...

They’re pretty much men-hosers, nothing else, but they’re still cool. I designed an Unfereth deck once, but opted to put together a Uruk Site Control Swarm instead.

I’ve never seen Isengard

men as competitive outside tower block. Inside tower block, where Rohan is all-powerful, go for it! But I prefer Dunland and Uruks in tower block.

But yeah, an Isengard

man deck would HAVE to be in tower block, otherwise, man-hate wouldn’t really go anywhere.

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:08 am

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

See, I think they could cause some serious mischief even outside of Tower block, because they really can toss out a lot of exertions with Unferth and Grima, Servant of Another Master when you pair them with other Isengard

cards like Wizard Storm, One of You Must Do This, and Saruman, Servant of Sauron.

I’ve put together a very rough deck, and I’d be curious what you long-time experts think about it.

SHADOW (38 cards)

Minions (19 cards):

Unferth, Grima’s Bodyguard x4
Grima, Servant of Another Master x2
Agents of Orthanc x3
Orc Commander x2
Isengard Mechanics x2
Isengard Plodder x2
Isengard Tinker x2
Uruk Crossbowman x2

Followers (2 cards):

Saruman, Servant of Sauron x2

Conditions (8 cards):

Wizard Storm x4
Tower of Orthanc x3
Caradhras Has Not Forgiven Us

Events (9 cards):

One of You Must Do This x3
Men Will Fall x4
New Power Rising x2

Okay, the Isengard

Men are designed to exert and eventually exhaust companions, especially when comboed with Saruman, Wizard Storm, and One of You Must Do This. If you’re able to exhaust even just one companion, Tower of Orthanc will give you lots of twilight to work with. Caradhras Has Not Forgiven Us will only work sometimes, but when it does, it can be a killer. The Orcs can certainly help exhaust as well, but they’re mainly there to apply the final wounds necessary to kill companions off. New Power Rising fits very well here and lets you do a little cycling, but more importantly, gets back a couple cards from discard when you need them.

Not the most potent of decks, granted, but could it work? I think it just might since no one in their right mind would be expecting it.

lem0nhead

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:13 am

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island

No1 in the right mind would be expecting it youre right but that doesnt mean they wouldnt be able to cope with it. By chance alone a lot of decks out there will kick its bottom. It might do well against some. Men obviously and sadly i cant think of anymore on the spot. But you should still try it DI. LOTR is after all about fun and sometimes (most of the time really) it shouldnt be all about the winning. If you enjoy playing it, do so!

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NBarden

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:48 pm

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...

I would say that the deck looks decent, but Unfereth is undeveloped. I’d stick with Tower block if you’re looking for a good deck. There are four major tower block strategies, Rohan, Three Hunters, Ring-Bound Rangers and Naith, and really Isengard men have the ability to kill all of them except the Natih. Isengard men are known for man-hate, particularly Rohan

, and culture-hate, so your best bet would be to go TT block.

IMO.

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