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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:18 pm |
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I don’t quite understand your thoughts mm. Maybe you could give an example of a card or two.
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| macheteman |
![]() Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:24 pm |
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ok, i’m sorry that took so long, but i think i’ve finally worked this out. here is a batch of three companions. other parts of the strategy will be woked out with support cards (events/conditions...)
 • Gandalf, Fated Burden 
Companion • Man
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 7
When you play Gandalf, you may add a burden to mount Gandalf on an Eagle.
While attached to an Eagle, Gandalf may not bear cards, and does not add to the number of companions you can spot.
If an Eagle bearing Gandalf is about to die, you may add and a threat to dismount Gandalf.
At the start of the assignment phase, you may exert an Eagle bearing Gandalf to add Gandalf’s strength to that Eagle.
Ever am I fated to be your burden, friend at need...
 • Gwaihir, Swiftest of Eagles
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 7
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 9
While Gwaihir is in your starting fellowship, his twilight cost is -2
While you can spot an Eagle, Gwaihir is twilight cost -2.
While bearing a companion, Gwaihir is defender +1.
"I would bear you," answered Gwaihir, "whither you will, even were you made of stone."
 • Thorondor, Eagle King of Old
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 8
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 8
To play, exert an Eagle.
Thorondor is twilight cost -1 and strength +1 for each Eagle you can spot.
Thorondor is damage +1 for each companion attached to an Eagle. |
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| elf lvr |
![]() Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:32 pm |
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| I’m sorry, but right now, I only see it as an overpowered version of having hand weapons... 4 cost for strength +7, along with damage or defender bonuses, and should you die, you get a free Gandalf. |
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| macheteman |
![]() Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:34 pm |
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elf lvr wrote: I’m sorry, but right now, I only see it as an overpowered version of having hand weapons... 4 cost for strength +7, along with damage or defender bonuses, and should you die, you get a free Gandalf.
good point.
let me think about costs and stuff. gp. |
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| AgentDrake |
![]() Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:02 pm |
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macheteman wrote: ok, i’m sorry that took so long, but i think i’ve finally worked this out. here is a batch of three companions. other parts of the strategy will be woked out with support cards (events/conditions...)
Alright, my attempt in blue to try to sort this out:
• Gandalf, Fated Burden
Companion • Man
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 7
When you play Gandalf, you may spot an Eagle to attach Gandalf to that Eagle.
While borne by an Eagle, add Gandalf’s strength to that Eagle, Gandalf may not bear cards, and does not add to the number of companions you can spot. At the start of each of your turns, discard Gandalf or that Eagle.
If an Eagle bearing Gandalf is about to die, you may transfer Gandalf to your fellowship.
Ever am I fated to be your burden, friend at need...
See, the problem is, he’s outright broken otherwise, so I added the exhuasting bit. Besides, I bet it’s hard work carrying a Wizard across the face of Middle-Earth.
The rest was just rewording to try to make things clearer.
• Gwaihir, Swiftest of Eagles
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 7
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 9
While Gwaihir is in your starting fellowship, his twilight cost is -2
While you can spot an Eagle, Gwaihir is twilight cost is -2.
While bearing a companion, Gwaihir is defender +1.
"I would bear you," answered Gwaihir, "whither you will, even were you made of stone."
• Thorondor, Eagle King of Old
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 9
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 8
To play spot 2 Eagles (or Gandalf and an Eagle).
Thorondor is twilight cost -1 and hunter 1 for each Eagle you can spot.
Thorondor is damage +1 for each companion attached to an Eagle.
Alright, I assume that you can spot companions borne by Eagles, correct? |
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| macheteman |
![]() Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:59 pm |
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i’m cooking up some ideas for how to balance this, and i think i’m on to something.
but keep in mind that most companions subtract from the Eagle’s strength. in fact, gandalf is the ONLY companion that can add strength.
so, some ideas are coming, i’ll try to edit them. |
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| macheteman |
![]() Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:10 am |
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| ok, thanks guys. gp will be given. major revamp on Gandalf with a bunh of costs. made it add a burden to attach him, which works SWEET with the subtitle/lore/story/everything. and added a cost to keep him in the fellowship. (thinking about scaling back the twilight that gets added. what do you think?) and made it add a cost to use gandalf’s strength. |
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:20 pm |
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macheteman wrote:
• Gandalf, Fated Burden
Companion • Man
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 7
When you play Gandalf, you may add a burden to attach Gandalf to an Eagle.
Gandalf may not bear cards, and does not add to the number of companions you can spot.
If an Eagle bearing Gandalf is about to die, you may add and a threat to transfer Gandalf to you fellowship.
Skirmish: Exert an Eagle bearing Gandalf to add Gandalf’s strength to that Eagle. (limit once per phase)
Ever am I fated to be your burden, friend at need...
you need to phrase it he may not bear cards while attached...
• Gwaihir, Swiftest of Eagles
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 7
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 9
While Gwaihir is in your starting fellowship, his twilight cost is -2
While you can spot an Eagle, Gwaihir is twilight cost is -2.
While bearing a companion, Gwaihir is defender +1.
"I would bear you," answered Gwaihir, "whither you will, even were you made of stone."
I like it...
• Thorondor, Eagle King of Old
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 9
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 8
To play spot 2 Eagles (or Gandalf and an Eagle).
Thorondor is twilight cost -1 and hunter 1 for each Eagle you can spot.
Thorondor is damage +1 for each companion attached to an Eagle.
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| macheteman |
![]() Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:50 pm |
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| more kick butt you say? how is he now? i tweaked him a little and i think he’s balanced. |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:01 pm |
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macheteman wrote: • Gandalf, Fated Burden
Companion • Man
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 7
When you play Gandalf, you may add a burden to attach Gandalf to an Eagle.
While attached to an Eagle, Gandalf may not bear cards, and does not add to the number of companions you can spot.
If an Eagle bearing Gandalf is about to die, you may add and a threat to transfer Gandalf to you fellowship.
Skirmish: Exert an Eagle bearing Gandalf to add Gandalf’s strength to that Eagle. (limit once per phase)
Ever am I fated to be your burden, friend at need...
Make a keyword that includes the first 2 lines of his text and a new one to streamline the third signifying the opposite of being attached, and make the skirmish ability ’at the start of the skirmish phase’ so that you can take out the limit. Give me a bit of time and I might be able to come up with some keyword name suggestions if you want them.
macheteman wrote: • Gwaihir, Swiftest of Eagles
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 7
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 9
While Gwaihir is in your starting fellowship, his twilight cost is -2
While you can spot an Eagle, Gwaihir is twilight cost is -2.
While bearing a companion, Gwaihir is defender +1.
"I would bear you," answered Gwaihir, "whither you will, even were you made of stone."
You don’t need 2 ’is’s on the second line, so it should say ’Gwaihir’s twilight cost is -2’. Again, try and use a keyword for his third line. I like this theme.
macheteman wrote: • Thorondor, Eagle King of Old
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 9
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 8
To play spot 2 Eagles (or Gandalf and an Eagle).
Thorondor is twilight cost -1 and strength +1 for each Eagle you can spot.
Thorondor is damage +1 for each companion attached to an Eagle.
While Thorondor has a companion attached to him, he gains Hunter 1.
If I remember correctly, Thorondor has nothing to do with Gandalf. Isn’t he First Age? I also think he’s incredibly broken. Bring his strength down to 6 and he’ll just be fine, though the second ability might be too good still. And his spotting should be at least 3 Eagles.
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