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NappyKorn
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:36 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 552 Location: USA
Ok the 2 condition are:

Border Patrol (Rohan)
Shadowplay (Shire)

Border Patrol reads:

When you play this condition, spot a mount Rohan man to add 3 Rohan tokens here.

Response: If a minion is played at a plains site, discard this condition or remove a Rohan token from here to exert that minion.

Shadowplay reads:

To play, spot 2 Shire companions. Each Time a minion is played, you may exert a Hobbit companion to exert that minion 9limit once per turn).

My question is this:

Say I’m at a plains site (Rohan Uplands for insistence) and the opponent plays Mumak Commander, Giant Among the Swertings:

1. Can I remove a token to exert him once then exert a shire companion to exert him again?

2. If so, if I have 3 shadowplays out can I do it 3 times or does one exertion of my Hobbit exert him 3 times?

3. If I can indeed remove the token from Border Patrol and exert a Hobbit with Shadowplay can I then play Unheeded to wound him which would kill him?


Thanks in advance,

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NBarden
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:18 pm
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1. Yes
2. You must exert once per copy you wish to use.
3. Why do you think the card was made? Wink Yes. Hence, the Shadowplay/Unheeded deck. But Border Patrol is cool also.
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macheteman
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:44 am
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wait, so shadowplay can be used "once per phase" for each condition you have?

if that is the case, can you discard 4x howda at one archery phase?
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:07 am
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macheteman wrote:
wait, so shadowplay can be used "once per phase" for each condition you have?

if that is the case, can you discard 4x howda at one archery phase?

Yes to both. When a minion is played, all your copies of Shadowplay trigger and you go through each one separately. First Shadowplay asks if you want to exert a Hobbit companion, so you handle that, and then the next Shadowplay asks you the same, and you handle that, and so on.

I’m probably having a brain fart, but wording it so you only have to exert one Hobbit for all copies of Shadowplay (while keeping the limit) seems awfully tricky. Maybe something like:

"Each time a minion is played, you may exert a Hobbit companion to exert that minion for each Shadowplay you can spot. Each Shadowplay you can spot loses its game text until the start of your turn."
Felipe Musco
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:48 am
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
Actually, more like:

"Each time a minion is played, you may exert a Hobbit companion to exert that minion for each card named Shadowplay you can spot."

Cleaner, huh? Interesting, how a lot of questions about LotR comes down to the MtG rules about triggered abilities, perhaps they should have copied that rule?
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NBarden
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:11 am
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Actually, no, because then you could trigger each Shadowplay separately.

F_M, LotR and MTG are as different as night and day. Sorry to inform you.
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LeoKula
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:36 am
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NBarden wrote:
Actually, no, because then you could trigger each Shadowplay separately.

F_M, LotR and MTG are as different as night and day. Sorry to inform you.


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bibfortuna25
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:22 pm
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
Since Border Patrol is a response, however, you can use it as many times as you want, assuming you have enough tokens.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:22 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
NBarden wrote:
Actually, no, because then you could trigger each Shadowplay separately..


Good point, missed that.

NBarden wrote:
F_M, LotR and MTG are as different as night and day. Sorry to inform you.


No they are not. LotR, like all other card games, borrow a whole bunch of rules form it. I learned to play it well enough pretty fast because I already knew the rules for MtG, just had to bear with the fact of not having responses except in cards that read response, which are quite few. They should have borrowed triggers. They HAPPEN anyway, might as well word them accordingly in the rules, to avoid such confusions.
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NBarden
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:28 pm
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So because they share a couple concepts, namely, responses, they’re similar?

The whole structure and feel of the games are completely different. Both of us have played both games and we both know that they’re completely different.
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