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What Dark Side culture should be next?
Creature |
[ 2 ] 20% |
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Dark Jedi |
[ 1 ] 10% |
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Empire |
[ 1 ] 10% |
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Fringe (Dark Side) |
[ 0 ] 0% |
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Mandalorian |
[ 4 ] 40% |
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Separatist |
[ 1 ] 10% |
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Wild Space (Dark Side) |
[ 0 ] 0% |
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Yuuzhan Vong |
[ 1 ] 10% |
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menace64 |
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:47 pm |
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Circlet: Yeah, SoP, you’re right. My mind’s been focusing so much on SWCCG that I slipped into the wrong wording!
Warrior: Hmm... yeah, I’ll change it to /6/3/7. I suppose I did give her too good of stats.
Sense: Sure. I’ll go with your wording, Dain. Sounds better.
Sweep: I’ll add toil 1.
Robes: You know, SoP, not all lores fit perfectly with the card. But adding a bit of the Jedi Code can maximize flavor!
Dain, if you want to make some cards, be my guest. I haven’t played those games in years (don’t even have them anymore), so those are wide-open for exploration. |
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menace64 |
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:59 pm |
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All right. Time to focus in on a few mechanics.
The Jedi are masters of the Force. So, naturally, their ability to manipulate and control objects is keen.
Thrown Back
Event ∙ Maneuver
Exert a knight with resistance 6 or more to return a condition or possession to its owner’s hand. If you can spot a second card with the same card title, return it to its owner’s hand.
"’The power of energy over matter…and mind over both.’"
Thrown Back can temporarily dismiss up to 2 conditions or possessions that are causing your Jedi stress. Say you were facing the equivalent of two minions bearing Pavises. Play Thrown Back and bounce both Pavises back to hand, then dispatch the minions.
But Jedi can do more than that!
Force Push
Event ∙ Skirmish
Spot a knight with resistance 6 or more to exert a minion that knight is skirmishing. If that minion is not exhausted, its owner may cancel the skirmish to make it fierce until the regroup phase.
A focused Jedi can shunt the Force into a narrow beam of compressed air, knocking opponents away or sending them flying into chasms.
At the most basic, Force Push is a straight spot-to-exert event (which *will* come in handy, as future Jedi cards will like seeing exertion tokens). But unless you make the minion ’too tired’ to keep fighting, you might actually enrage him. The minion’s owner can elect to cancel the entire skirmish (killing off any bonuses you may have had) and then bring the minion back for another pass. That might be advantageous for you; then again, it may not be. Or you might just hold on to Force Push until the fierce skirmishes are already under way. |
Last edited by menace64 on Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:13 am; edited 1 time in totalRiddle 9
When I came to Abraham I let him live just a moment longer. When I came to Moses I saved his life more than once. But the salmon... I regret to say I had a hand in its death.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:08 pm |
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menace64 wrote: All right. Time to focus in on a few mechanics.
The Jedi are masters of the Force. So, naturally, their ability to manipulate and control objects is keen.
![2](images/smiles/2-twilight.gif) Thrown Back
Event ∙ Maneuver
Exert a knight with resistance 6 or more to return a condition or possession to its owner’s hand. If you can spot another card with the same card title, return each to its owner’s hand.
"’The power of energy over matter…and mind over both.’"
right now it seems like you can return all of the same title to hand...
I believe the wording should be If you can spot...title, return it to its owners hand.
![0](images/smiles/0-twilight.gif) Force Push
Event ∙ Skirmish
Spot a knight with resistance 6 or more to exert a minion that knight is skirmishing. If that minion is not exhausted, its owner may cancel the skirmish to make it fierce until the regroup phase.
A focused Jedi can shunt the Force into a narrow beam of compressed air, knocking opponents away or sending them flying into chasms.
make it cost 1 for sere. |
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MR. Lurtzy |
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:18 pm |
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menace64 wrote: All right. Time to focus in on a few mechanics.
The Jedi are masters of the Force. So, naturally, their ability to manipulate and control objects is keen.
![2](images/smiles/2-twilight.gif) Thrown Back
Event ∙ Maneuver
Exert a knight with resistance 6 or more to return a condition or possession to its owner’s hand. If you can spot another card with the same card title, return each to its owner’s hand.
"’The power of energy over matter…and mind over both.’"
Good card, agree on SOP’s wording for it.
Thrown Back can temporarily dismiss up to 2 conditions or possessions that are causing your Jedi stress. Say you were facing the equivalent of two ![Men](images/smiles/men.gif) minions bearing Pavises. Play Thrown Back and bounce both Pavises back to hand, then dispatch the minions.
But Jedi can do more than that!
![0](images/smiles/0-twilight.gif) Force Push
Event ∙ Skirmish
Spot a knight with resistance 6 or more to exert a minion that knight is skirmishing. If that minion is not exhausted, its owner may cancel the skirmish to make it fierce until the regroup phase.
A focused Jedi can shunt the Force into a narrow beam of compressed air, knocking opponents away or sending them flying into chasms.
Definately needs to cost or have more of a spotting requirement. Looks good though!
At the most basic, Force Push is a straight spot-to-exert event (which *will* come in handy, as future Jedi cards will like seeing exertion tokens). But unless you make the minion ’too tired’ to keep fighting, you might actually enrage him. The minion’s owner can elect to cancel the entire skirmish (killing off any bonuses you may have had) and then bring the minion back for another pass. That might be advantageous for you; then again, it may not be. Or you might just hold on to Force Push until the fierce skirmishes are already under way. |
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Without respite my blood will flow
O’er your eyes ‘til they cannot see
The impossibility of victory.'
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menace64 |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:10 am |
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All right, Push will be .
As for Thrown Back, I’m not too sure what you’re suggesting, SoP. But here’s a way to make it clearer:
Exert a knight with resistance 6 or more to return a condition or possession to its owner’s hand. If you can spot a second card with the same card title, return it to its owner’s hand.
And now, a few common cards that operate at the core of what the Jedi culture can do.
Attunement
Event ∙ Skirmish
Force-skill. Make a knight strength +2 (or spot 3 cards to make a companion with resistance 7 or more strength +2). If that companion wins the skirmish, you may look at the top 3 cards of your draw deck.
"’Concentrate... feel the Force flow. Yes. Good. Calm, yes. Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future... the past. Old friends long gone.’"
Kind of a simple strength pump in disguise, huh? +2 strength for nothing, and if you win you get a look at the future. I wanted to open up the card to non-knights, because - well - it shouldn’t be limited to them. That’s a big part of the Jedi culture: they bleed over into other cultures fairly easily (of course, you’ll still need cultural enforcement).
Choice of Fate
Discard X cards from hand to heal X wounds from companions. For each card discarded over 1, add a burden.
"’Decide you must how to serve them best. If you leave now, help them you could. But you would destroy all for which they have fought and suffered.’"
The question is, when does saving your friends begin to pull you into the Dark Side of the Force? How far can you go before you go too far?
The Jedi culture isn’t the best at healing wounds, but they have access to a few cards - like this one - that can get the job done. This card will probably fall into the uncommon rarity, but I wanted to go ahead and throw it out there.
And one more ’core card’.
∙Moment of Respite
Condition ∙ Support Area
To play, exert a knight (or spot Obi-Wan Kenobi).
At the start of each regroup phase, if you cannot spot a minion, add a token here.
Alliance: Spot a knight and remove X tokens here to play a card; its twilight cost is -X.
"’Before the dark times, before the Empire.’"
That might appear overpowered at first, but unless you set up a slick reinforcing engine, it’s limited by how many regroup phases there are in any given game. This card highlights a particular strength of Obi-Wan... his ability to bring cards into play cheaply. A few more Obi-Wan-centric cards will focus on this theme. |
Last edited by menace64 on Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:53 am; edited 1 time in totalRiddle 9
When I came to Abraham I let him live just a moment longer. When I came to Moses I saved his life more than once. But the salmon... I regret to say I had a hand in its death.
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MR. Lurtzy |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:40 pm |
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menace64 wrote: All right, Push will be ![1](images/smiles/1-twilight.gif) .
As for Thrown Back, I’m not too sure what you’re suggesting, SoP. But here’s a way to make it clearer:
Exert a knight with resistance 6 or more to return a condition or possession to its owner’s hand. If you can spot a second card with the same card title, return it to its owner’s hand.
And now, a few common cards that operate at the core of what the Jedi culture can do.
![0](images/smiles/0-twilight.gif) Attunement
Event ∙ Skirmish
Force-skill. Make a knight strength +2 (or spot 3 ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) cards to make a companion with resistance 7 or more strength +2). If that companion wins the skirmish, you may look at the top 3 cards of your draw deck.
"’Concentrate... feel the Force flow. Yes. Good. Calm, yes. Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future... the past. Old friends long gone.’"
Good card. Prolly needs cost of though.
Kind of a simple strength pump in disguise, huh? +2 strength for nothing, and if you win you get a look at the future. I wanted to open up the card to non-knights, because - well - it shouldn’t be limited to them. That’s a big part of the Jedi culture: they bleed over into other cultures fairly easily (of course, you’ll still need cultural enforcement).
![1](images/smiles/1-twilight.gif) Choice of Fate
Discard X ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) cards from hand to heal X wounds from companions. For each card discarded over 1, add a burden.
"’Decide you must how to serve them best. If you leave now, help them you could. But you would destroy all for which they have fought and suffered.’"
Shouldn’t it be X wounds from X companions? Like the drawback though .
The question is, when does saving your friends begin to pull you into the Dark Side of the Force? How far can you go before you go too far?
The Jedi culture isn’t the best at healing wounds, but they have access to a few cards - like this one - that can get the job done. This card will probably fall into the uncommon rarity, but I wanted to go ahead and throw it out there.
And one more ’core card’.
![0](images/smiles/0-twilight.gif) ∙Moment of Respite
Condition ∙ Support Area
To play, exert a knight (or spot Obi-Wan Kenobi).
At the start of each regroup phase, if you cannot spot a minion, add a ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) token here.
Alliance: Spot a knight and remove X ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) tokens here to play a card; its twilight cost is -X.
"’Before the dark times, before the Empire.’"
Nice!
That might appear overpowered at first, but unless you set up a slick reinforcing engine, it’s limited by how many regroup phases there are in any given game. This card highlights a particular strength of Obi-Wan... his ability to bring cards into play cheaply. A few more Obi-Wan-centric cards will focus on this theme. |
'On and on old war shall go,
Without respite my blood will flow
O’er your eyes ‘til they cannot see
The impossibility of victory.'
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sickofpalantirs |
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:13 pm |
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menace64 wrote: All right, Push will be ![1](images/smiles/1-twilight.gif) .
As for Thrown Back, I’m not too sure what you’re suggesting, SoP. But here’s a way to make it clearer:
Exert a knight with resistance 6 or more to return a condition or possession to its owner’s hand. If you can spot a second card with the same card title, return it to its owner’s hand.
thats essentially what I suggested
![0](images/smiles/0-twilight.gif) Attunement
Event ∙ Skirmish
Force-skill. Make a knight strength +2 (or spot 3 ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) cards to make a companion with resistance 7 or more strength +2). If that companion wins the skirmish, you may look at the top 3 cards of your draw deck.
"’Concentrate... feel the Force flow. Yes. Good. Calm, yes. Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future... the past. Old friends long gone.’"
should cost 1.
![1](images/smiles/1-twilight.gif) Choice of Fate
Discard X ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) cards from hand to heal X wounds from companions. For each card discarded over 1, add a burden.
"’Decide you must how to serve them best. If you leave now, help them you could. But you would destroy all for which they have fought and suffered.’"
now this one can be 0
![0](images/smiles/0-twilight.gif) ∙Moment of Respite
Condition ∙ Support Area
To play, exert a knight (or spot Obi-Wan Kenobi).
At the start of each regroup phase, if you cannot spot a minion, add a ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) token here.
Alliance: Spot a knight and remove X ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) tokens here to play a card; its twilight cost is -X.
"’Before the dark times, before the Empire.’"
Fine by me.maybe though tokens cannot be reinforced, just to make sure |
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:50 am |
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Well, Attunement shall definitely cost 1, and I’ll drop Choice to . I like it when two reviews line up like that!
As an aside with Moment of Respite, currently I don’t think culture will be very good at reinforcing tokens. Perhaps other culture tokens, but not for themselves. If that changes I’ll have another look at the card.
Thanks for the reviews guys. You rock.
I think we’re long overdue for some lightsaber cards. So today I’m doing 4 cards, 1 saber and 3 cards relating to them.
Relic of the Old Republic
Possession ∙ Hand Weapon
Strength +1
Lightsaber. To play, spot a knight. Bearer must be a companion.
Each time bearer wins a skirmish, if he or she has resistance 6 or more, you may take a Free Peoples event into hand from your discard pile.
"’For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic.’"
This costs 1 more than the other non-unique lightsaber, and at the loss of a strength point you can throw it onto any companion. But, unlike the other lightsaber, this one’s got an ability. Pretty good trade-offs, I think!
My Powers Have Doubled
Event ∙ Skirmish
Exert a knight X times to make him or her strength +X. If he or she is bearing a lightsaber, make him or her damage +X as well.
Count Dooku would not live long enough to see the fearful truth behind the young Jedi’s words.
An event to help tip the balance of a close skirmish, or to flip the lightsaber into an aggressive slash to cut a foe into many tiny pieces.
Repose
Event ∙ Regroup
Force-skill. Spot a knight bearing a lightsaber to heal him or her. If you move again this turn, that knight is strength +2 until the next regroup phase.
Temporarily isolated from the Sith warrior, Qui-Gon Jinn moved into a state of deep meditation to help refocus his strength.
Good for prolonged fights. But you have to have that lightsaber!
The Art of the Saber
Event ∙ Alliance
Spot a knight bearing a lightsaber to take a force-skill into hand from your discard pile.
"’If you’d spend as much time working on your saber skills as you do on your wit, young Padawan, you would rival Master Yoda as a swordsman.’ ’I thought I already did.’"
Pretty good recursion card. I think might be a bit much, but I don’t want it to exert. Adding a threat or a burden doesn’t fit the flavor... maybe discard a card from hand? That seems like a common cost element of the culture. Let me know what you think. |
Riddle 9
When I came to Abraham I let him live just a moment longer. When I came to Moses I saved his life more than once. But the salmon... I regret to say I had a hand in its death.
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:13 am |
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menace64 wrote: Well, Attunement shall definitely cost 1, and I’ll drop Choice to ![0](images/smiles/0-twilight.gif) . I like it when two reviews line up like that!
As an aside with Moment of Respite, currently I don’t think ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) culture will be very good at reinforcing tokens. Perhaps other culture tokens, but not for themselves. If that changes I’ll have another look at the card.
Thanks for the reviews guys. You rock.
I think we’re long overdue for some lightsaber cards. So today I’m doing 4 cards, 1 saber and 3 cards relating to them.
![2](images/smiles/2-twilight.gif) Relic of the Old Republic
Possession ∙ Hand Weapon
Strength +1
Lightsaber. To play, spot a knight. Bearer must be a companion.
Each time bearer wins a skirmish, if he or she has resistance 6 or more, you may take a Free Peoples event into hand from your discard pile.
"’For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic.’"
I’d like to see a bonus for knights bearing this, but it’s otherwise good.
This costs 1 more than the other non-unique lightsaber, and at the loss of a strength point you can throw it onto any companion. But, unlike the other lightsaber, this one’s got an ability. Pretty good trade-offs, I think!
![0](images/smiles/0-twilight.gif) My Powers Have Doubled
Event ∙ Skirmish
Exert a knight X times to make him or her strength +X. If he or she is bearing a lightsaber, make him or her damage +X as well.
Count Dooku would not live long enough to see the fearful truth behind the young Jedi’s words.
Good, good.
An event to help tip the balance of a close skirmish, or to flip the lightsaber into an aggressive slash to cut a foe into many tiny pieces.
![1](images/smiles/1-twilight.gif) Repose
Event ∙ Regroup
Force-skill. Spot a knight bearing a lightsaber to heal him or her. If you move again this turn, that knight is strength +2 until the next regroup phase.
Temporarily isolated from the Sith warrior, Qui-Gon Jinn moved into a state of deep meditation to help refocus his strength.
I like it!
Good for prolonged fights. But you have to have that lightsaber!
![2](images/smiles/2-twilight.gif) The Art of the Saber
Event ∙ Alliance
Spot a knight bearing a lightsaber to take a ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) force-skill into hand from your discard pile.
"’If you’d spend as much time working on your saber skills as you do on your wit, young Padawan, you would rival Master Yoda as a swordsman.’ ’I thought I already did.’"
Is alliance supposed to be fellowship? This card could safely be dropped to though. Maybe discard a card from hand or remove a card from the discard pile from the game would suffice.
Pretty good recursion card. I think ![2](images/smiles/2-twilight.gif) might be a bit much, but I don’t want it to exert. Adding a threat or a burden doesn’t fit the flavor... maybe discard a ![Gandalf](images/smiles/gandalf.gif) card from hand? That seems like a common cost element of the culture. Let me know what you think. |
'On and on old war shall go,
Without respite my blood will flow
O’er your eyes ‘til they cannot see
The impossibility of victory.'
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