Quick question: What happens if you play one
Saruman's reach and he puts on the ring then you play a second.. will he HAVE to exert? Cannot see any other options as the second choice is not possible as the ring is on. Had it been Exert an elf or exert two companions then you'd have to do the second option if first was not possible. Seeing as the ring is on he'd have to exert right?
Have you considered One Of You Must Do This for some extra exertions in the maneuver phase? Just one copy or two would be fine.
I'd like to echo the previous suggestions for Ulaire Nelya, Ringwraith in Twilight.
-wtk
I have thought of it but dismissed it quickly thinking you cannot guarantee many races in the fellowship but looking at it more closely now and thinking about it I realise that you are almost guaranteed atleast two races so that is two wounds (same as
Saruman's reach) and have a good chance of 3 and small chance of 4. Will definately try out
One of you must do this! Thanks for the tip:-)
Re FM's last post: Playtested
Servant of the eye now and it worked GREAT along the other changes I've made. I played vs moria swarm and big fellowship with elf allies and I killed companions left, right and center. Got two kills off
News of Mordor and kept his fellowship "in the red" for most of the game. Did not miss
Blade tip at all but still some irregularities when it comes to what minions I have at hand sometimes. Hand still feels clogged and I had to pass on doing anything a few shadowphases, more tactically as I could have played a minion or two but they would have done 0 dmg so opted to fake having nothing and see if he'd double move. He did once and even though I was unlucky in what cards I drew I did some damage.
Nelya looked like not working before I added Saruman and tuned the deck to deal more damage, I think he'll work great now as the opponent was constantly in wound-trouble and thus will prob. have wounds on ringbearer more often. Attea worked well and might be a better option than WK considering I rarely have two Nazguls out at the same time. Infact I think I am going to remove one or two Nazguls and have more Uruks since Saruman works so well to add wounds and I only need one Nazgul out to add Breaths, threat with Return to it's master and use
News of Mordor.
Doing that opens up for a fourth
Savagery to match their numbers and more
Troop of Uruk-Hai and as you said they work great with Saruman and Savagery. Also noticed Saruman can be spotted for
News of Mordor which worked great one time I only had him and WK on my hand. Also noticed that
Servant of the eye can force-kill companions in the way that the exertion done to prevent an assignment is done by that companion. I killed Gimli that way by him having 2/3 life left, I assigned
Troop of Uruk-Hai on him and Oppo. could then exert him to stop it but I coud still assign him twice more thus Gimli died.
I love your thinking around
Blade tip and fooling the opponent to play with a certain card in mind. I have had a few ideas like that for this deck and I think it is one of the biggest mental advantages a double culture shadowside has in that it confuses and can make opponents forget important cards or play to avoid a certain card which makes them volnurable to others.
Even before the changes mentioned in your last post FM the deck feels pretty powerfull (and fun:) and I think the combination of
Black breath and Uruk's have alot of potential. Looking forward to tuning the deck even more and implementing Nelya and the last Savagery + another Troop or two. Will prob. have to play
Hollin to be honest and hope my damage dealing can "turn on" Nelya. Thinking about it a Strength 10 minion is usually stronger than most companions early game anyways and late game the chances of wounds on the ringbearer (or burdens) increases dramatically with my kick-#$&*@! minions and tons of exertions. Good call:-)
*Edit*
Ok, this is what I did based on the last few posts. Did not find myself sitting with minions I could'
nt play last game but made these changes anyways so we'll see how it goes. If I feel the lack of strength from my Nazguls I'll add two more Attea's or a couple of WK's.
Return to it's master although fun rarely wins the game, reluctantly took out one copy as I found myself having to take out one copy of
Saruman's reach to find space for two
One of you must do this. I could drop a Savagery to put back another
Saruman's reach but think that with 9 Uruk's and Saruman the threat of Savagery is greater than two exertions. I now have one
blade tip and one Return to it's master to scare people, and I think the beatdown part is stronger and that is what will win 95% of games anyways.
I also took out the last two Witch kings and added two
Ulaire Nelya, Ringwraith in twilight, and the last
Ulaire Lemenya, lieutenant of Morgul for another
Troop of Uruk-hai. Went one down on
Uruk Ravager and one up on
Savagery to match their numbers.
Things I'd like your opinion on:
Uruk Warrior, decent enough and good when facing large fellowships but allready have Enqeua to threaten them. Any other Uruks that might be better like an additional
Uruk Ravager?
Uruk Captain, same as above. Rarely have twilight but can save you at site 9 with tons of twilight and no minions. Maybe one is enough and better to add something else like a
Uruk ravager or a pump. Maybe even Lurtz now that my Uruk count is up alittle and I have Saruman to assign him?
Second Ulaire Cantea, found no room for a second copy. As it stands now I have 7 Nazguls and 9 Uruks plus 3 Sarumans. Feel like I need all the events/conditions so only way to find room for a second Cantea is to remove a Nazgul or a uruk. Personally I think I need the Uruk count, esp since they are the cheaper minions but with WK gone I could maybe cut one of them. So that leaves cutting a nazgul and I cannot see which one would be worth cutting for Cantea. Any opinions? If I had to put a 2nd Cantea in I'd prob take out a Warrior or captain but that would leave me alittle short of uruks to exert and use savagery on I think.
Tower of Orthanc, Cannot see how I'd fit it in but might be worth it considering I am running a twilight heavy operation?