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January 21, 2010, 02:07:46 AM
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Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« on: January 21, 2010, 02:07:46 AM »
I'm not sure if the combination works perfectly together and I've never played Tentacles before, so this is just an idea.

Ring-bearer
Isildur, Bearer of Heirlooms
The One Ring, Answer to All Riddles

Free Peoples (36)
2x Oathbreaker
3x Aragorn, Driven By Need
1x Cursed of Erech
2x King of the Dead, Oathbreaker
1x Shadow Host
3x Sleepless Dead

1x Andúril, Flame of the West
1x Scroll of Isildur
1x Seeing Stone of Orthanc

1x The Saga of Elendil
3x Stronger and More Terrible
3x Swept Away

4x Let Folly Be Our Cloak
2x Duty of Two
4x End of the Game
4x We Must Go Warily

Shadow (36)
4x Shelob, Last Child of Ungoliant
1x The Balrog, Durin's Bane
4x Watcher in the Water, Keeper of Westgate
4x Foul Tentacle
4x Huge Tentacle
4x Goblin Runner
2x Goblin Scrabbler
2x Goblin Warrior

2x Larder

4x Evil-Smelling Fens

4x Foul Things
1x Such a Little Thing

The main goal for the Free Peoples is to choke with Let Folly Be Our Cloak and We Must Go Warily and to get my wraiths exhausted quickly (I'm not fan of playing Dead Man of Dunharrow because I need Swept Away out first). With not giving to many twilight my wraiths should be able to beat the opponent's minions (or just stay alive and still run). I put in some healing as well, to be able to use the choke cards more than once, or in case I play against archery decks.

As far as the Shadow is concerned, it is a way to get some Shadow cards out of my deck so I will get my wraiths out in time. And hopefully It's able to swarm with tentacles or stop the opponent from moving with a Balrog or Shelob + Larder.I threw in some Scrabblers, Warriors and Such a Little thing to have something against certain cultures.
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January 21, 2010, 07:41:01 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 07:41:01 AM »
Do you know that we must go warily has an erratum? Why not having Gollum in your shadow, I think it could be very helpful. I would also add Sam, SoH.

January 21, 2010, 07:59:53 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 07:59:53 AM »
Durin's Bane is helpful for...sites 3 and 4? No reason to run him. Sauron, the Lord of the Rings might be fun at one copy.
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January 21, 2010, 08:04:22 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 08:04:22 AM »
cl0ckw0rk, is there any deck you have in which you do NOT run Sam, SoH? :P

January 21, 2010, 08:07:53 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 08:07:53 AM »
There shouldn't be!

Really, though, unless you have another Sam as a key to your deck (which gives you access to the cool [Shire] burden removal stuff) then Son of Hamfast is near-necessary. At least at one copy.
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January 21, 2010, 08:13:52 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 08:13:52 AM »
Do you know that we must go warily has an erratum? Why not having Gollum in your shadow, I think it could be very helpful. I would also add Sam, SoH.

I knew the twilight cost is only +1, but I think it's still helpful enough.
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January 21, 2010, 08:45:37 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 08:45:37 AM »
There shouldn't be!

Really, though, unless you have another Sam as a key to your deck (which gives you access to the cool [Shire] burden removal stuff) then Son of Hamfast is near-necessary. At least at one copy.
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Agree Completely. I mean, is there any freeps Deck where you don't get burdens? I think is always useful, though.

January 21, 2010, 09:43:14 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 09:43:14 AM »
Do you know that we must go warily has an erratum? Why not having Gollum in your shadow, I think it could be very helpful. I would also add Sam, SoH.

I knew the twilight cost is only +1, but I think it's still helpful enough.
You also have to exert your gondor companion twice. With 4 Let folly be our cloak you won't have enough unused vitality point to use 4 we must go warily.

January 21, 2010, 09:48:30 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 09:48:30 AM »
Maybe add some Duty of Two.

January 21, 2010, 09:53:32 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 09:53:32 AM »
Do you know that we must go warily has an erratum? Why not having Gollum in your shadow, I think it could be very helpful. I would also add Sam, SoH.

I knew the twilight cost is only +1, but I think it's still helpful enough.
You also have to exert your gondor companion twice. With 4 Let folly be our cloak you won't have enough unused vitality point to use 4 we must go warily.

I am aware of that as well. But i Don't necessarily have to exert all companions to reduce costs with Let Folly Be Our Cloak and that's why there is also some healing with Duty of Two.
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January 21, 2010, 02:10:49 PM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2010, 02:10:49 PM »
cl0ckw0rk, is there any deck you have in which you do NOT run Sam, SoH? :P

He would play two at the same time if it was allowed ;) haha

But I think it depends on what kind of deck you play:

Bilbo doesn't need him, Smeagol doesn't need him

Frodo can use different kind of sam's

Gandalf (in Standard) doesn't need him

Galadriel doesn't need him

Faramir (in standard) doesn't need him

Leaves following rb: Boromir, Gimli and Isuldur, but also then it depends... There other ways to remove burdens, okay not as easy as with sam, soh, but there are alternatives.

But back to topic: I realy like the deck! But what I don't understand is why you don't add 2x Gollum dad with 4 captured by the ring instead of Shelob and larder. It makes your deck faster. It makes you able to hurt the ringbearer and if there are burdens you can add twillight to allow you more tentacles. I even would add 4 x so polite and 2 fat one wants it so you'll be able to add more threats and also create more twillight. Otherwise it will be difficult to get the minions effective. but that are my 2 cents.
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January 21, 2010, 02:19:38 PM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 02:19:38 PM »
(0) Hobbit of Tales [Shire]
Condition • Support Area
Each time you exert a Hobbit, you may place a Hobbit companion from hand on the table.

I think that gets around uniqueness rule because you are "placing," not playing.
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January 21, 2010, 02:37:50 PM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2010, 02:37:50 PM »
(0) Hobbit of Tales [Shire]
Condition • Support Area
Each time you exert a Hobbit, you may place a Hobbit companion from hand on the table.

I think that gets around uniqueness rule because you are "placing," not playing.
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That's a funny mistake :D But where would you place it on table... Did Illuvatar created a new bubble somewhere in the void ;)

January 21, 2010, 02:43:09 PM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 02:43:09 PM »
That's a funny mistake :D But where would you place it on table... Did Illuvatar created a new bubble somewhere in the void ;)

That is how VS. System gets past uniqueness for applicable characters. There specify the difference between "playing" and "placing."
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January 23, 2010, 12:42:28 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2010, 12:42:28 AM »
I was never a fan of VS. System but with such a stupid rule.. imagine a Boromir only fellowship, with one Boromir, BoC
and 3 others as your fellowship!

January 23, 2010, 02:23:18 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2010, 02:23:18 AM »
Different game, but Delta quadrant spatial scission 1st edition Star Trek allowed two copies of the same unique character in play at the same time. It was a lot of fun. From memory there was a clone card that did the same thing.

http://www.trekcc.org/1e/index.php?id=123&cardID=944

I wouldn't mind a spatial scission fellowship deck - sounds fun, or better still spatial scission The Balrog for two Balrogs at site 5. Some of us were talking about different ways of playing the game today, maybe this is the future of LOTR  ;)

January 23, 2010, 02:25:59 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2010, 02:25:59 AM »
but is it legal?

January 23, 2010, 08:32:26 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2010, 08:32:26 AM »
I hope it won't be.

January 23, 2010, 08:36:03 AM
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Re: Wraith Choke with Eight Legs and Tentacles
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2010, 08:36:03 AM »
The rule was applicable in flavorful sense.

Example: Mysterio, a Spider-Man villain who was known for using illusions in his crimes could be non-unique. Also, Kang, an alien super-race could be non-unique. Both of those examples are quite flavorful, based on the characters they are based on.
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