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February 24, 2013, 07:54:14 AM
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« Reply #1620 on: February 24, 2013, 07:54:14 AM »
At Site 5, at the start of Boromir's skirmish, my opponent was able to prevent one wound with Sapling of the White Tree, and have Boromir only take a single wound, instead of the required 2 wounds or 3 burdens.

I came here to report the exact same thing. Sapling of the White Tree cannot prevent Boromir's self-wounding... otherwise he hasn't actually paid the required cost. Though I think perhaps you can pay the cost of two wounds with one of them taken as a burden? Note that with Sapling the wound is prevented but with The Ring of Rings it is taken.

EDIT: An article from Decipher mentions that if you cannot take both wounds (with Armor) you must take burdens.

Morgul Destroyer example from the rulebook which touches on a similar scenario:

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If something happens to prevent one effect which in turn would have prevented a second effect, the second effect is performed. Morgul Destroyer is played. The Free Peoples player wounds the Ring-bearer to prevent the threats from being added. The Free Peoples player then discards Sapling of the White Tree. Because Sapling has prevented the effect (a wound) that would have prevented Morgul Destroyer's effect, the threats are now added.
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February 24, 2013, 08:24:33 AM
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« Reply #1621 on: February 24, 2013, 08:24:33 AM »
Though I think perhaps you can pay the cost of two wounds with one of them taken as a burden? Note that with Sapling the wound is prevented but with The Ring of Rings it is taken.

Even with The Ring of Rings, Boromir isn't actually taking the wounds. He's taking burdens instead of wounds.
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February 24, 2013, 09:28:29 AM
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« Reply #1622 on: February 24, 2013, 09:28:29 AM »
I think Boromir, Bearer of council is working fine.  If the text was "At the start of each skirmish involving Boromir, add 3 burdens.  The Free Peoples player may wound Boromir twice to prevent this," then if you did not end up wounding Boromir twice, you would have to add the 3 burdens.  However, that's not what is said.  You are allowed to choose to wound twice, or to add 3 burdens: subtle difference.  If you could wound Boromir twice (so not wearing Armor), you may choose to do so.  This is not a cost to perform an action (such as preventing the 3 burdens if the text of the card was as above), so if the wounds do not end up being added, no biggie.

February 24, 2013, 09:31:37 AM
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« Reply #1623 on: February 24, 2013, 09:31:37 AM »
From another post:

The ring doesn't prevent the wounds, it replaces them with burdens.  This allows Boromir to wound twice and use the ring to convert them.  Let me look for the ruling about this, and I'll put that here in an edit.

Edit: From the August 13, 2007 CRD
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When a card uses the phrase "instead" or
"instead of", the stated effect is replaced with
a different effect. This does not mean that the
original effect is prevented. If the second effect
cannot happen for any reason, then the original
effect occurs.


Search the Archives of Minas Tirith for boromir sapling and you'll find this question has come up dozens of times. :)

February 24, 2013, 12:31:33 PM
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« Reply #1624 on: February 24, 2013, 12:31:33 PM »
Hey people,

I found a little problem in a card.

The card (One Good Turn Deserves Another (11U49)) when used in reagrup fase with (Brooding on Tomorrow (10U15) ) when you have only 4 cards in hand and add a burden  to make it back to hand not losing the initiative to activate the card Brooding on Tomorrow (10U15). Could review it? thank you

February 24, 2013, 01:55:26 PM
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« Reply #1625 on: February 24, 2013, 01:55:26 PM »
For Boromir, you CAN use Sapling/Intimidate/ROR if you choose the wounding option. The only time you canNOT choose the wounding option is if the Ring is already on, or if he is bearing Armor.
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February 25, 2013, 05:32:34 AM
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« Reply #1626 on: February 25, 2013, 05:32:34 AM »
Aragorn HttOG is buggy.
Dont work his defender +1 when you can spor 3 FP cultures (and with shadow cultures too, but I am no pretty sure)

February 26, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
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« Reply #1627 on: February 26, 2013, 12:09:50 PM »
Link?

March 02, 2013, 09:16:24 AM
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« Reply #1628 on: March 02, 2013, 09:16:24 AM »
Elrond, Herald to Gil-galad doesn't work correctly:

You can spot an ally to heal him up to 2 times. I had another copy of Elrond, HtGG in hand and wanted to heal Elrond, HtGG only once so I could cycle. As it is, clicking Elrond, HtGG (my only ally) healed him twice automatically.

March 02, 2013, 09:48:16 AM
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« Reply #1629 on: March 02, 2013, 09:48:16 AM »
Green Hill Country is not working properly. I played him in hobbit hospital deck, and it wasnt reducing the cost of my allies(hobbit). Once I had hobbit farmer to copy site's text everything was working fine, so it's buggy only in the first turn.

March 02, 2013, 03:04:57 PM
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« Reply #1630 on: March 02, 2013, 03:04:57 PM »
With Fat One Wants It in play, I played So Polite, but the threat from FOWI wasn't included in the twilight added from So Polite. Since the threat is added automatically, So Polite should add [1].
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March 02, 2013, 07:53:29 PM
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« Reply #1631 on: March 02, 2013, 07:53:29 PM »
The Witch King, Black captain is applying his text even against Eowyn QQ

March 02, 2013, 08:01:45 PM
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« Reply #1632 on: March 02, 2013, 08:01:45 PM »
The Witch King, Black captain is applying his text even against Eowyn QQ

Eowyn is a Man. :mrgreen:

March 02, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
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March 02, 2013, 10:23:10 PM
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