another loop

[macheteman]

can we see your loop deck?

[Mc Tono]

after I play it. Wanna try on SDA? You`ll be the first.

[TheJord]

Will SOMEONE please just play the man!? 

[macheteman]

if you can host sure. i can't host on sda. but if you can host i'll play. haha

[Mc Tono]

I can using Hamaci or whatever you call it. Only problem is: CET is 9 hours earlier than the American time. I`m off next Saturday. Anyone else also? Or Friday night after 8pm CET.

Will SOMEONE please just play the man!? 

Don`t be angry. I`m sure you understand my position. I`ve come up with the greatest deck in my entire 5 years of play, and I haven`t had the opportunity to play it. 

[Gil-Estel]

Yeah, me and Mc Tono, we are great friends. He is very creative, builds great decks, so I'm very anxious to see this new deck..is it standard or expanded though? I will play him in 2 weeks, than it will be out in the open, maybe earlier when I get my PC back and download SDA and hamachi once again.

[SomeRandomDude]

For the Record: Nbarden did not, I repeat NOT try to chicken out on the auto-loss-game he was facing.

Auto loss? Who says I wasn't gonna play my horn/troll swarm kill you at site 2 deck? I've got loops too man...

I beg your Barden!!

*groan*

I'm up for a game whenever I have....

1. Time.
2. Access to a computer with SdA.

[Mc Tono]

I`ll refrain from telling jokes:-[. Your taking this too literally. It will be no autowin. I`m convinced that I`ll lose against a horn/troll deck. You`ll see.
greets

[SomeRandomDude]

(I'm just teasing ya back man. )

[Mc Tono]

Beat Gil-Estel this evening: my task was done.
Here`s my loop-post:

Wouldn`t it be nice to fire 12 arrows every step taking 3 steps every turn removing all burdens and all threats every turn + every step a +14 strength bonus +discarding all shadows conditions?

Here`s how it goes:
Bid 0
Cycle like crazy until you have the following setup:

In play:
Gil Galad
2 token conditions with at least 2 tokens on each. (namarie or/and uncertain future)
Leaving forever in play or discard pile
Careful study in hand or drawdeck

Survive!
Then during the regroup:
Remove a token to play leaving forever
Discard leaving forever to draw 2 cards
Remove a token to play leaving forever
Discard leaving forever to discard the empty tokencard
Remove a token to play a token condition with 3 tokens
Remove a token to play another condition (like focus) from your discardpile
Repeat this until your hand is filled with your drawdeck

Then:
Play careful study discarding all but 8 of the following cards that are not yet in play:

-Radagast
-shadowfax
-bows
-woodhall elf
-3 x Watcher
-Still needed (also playable with gil and a threat)
(- when facing extreme conditiondiscardal: 1 or 2 copies of uncertain future)
(maybe an extra Gil for healing)

Then:
Play the rest of the discarded conditions with Gil.
Discard all shadow conditions the same way using leaving forever.

Move if possible (should work with a bunch of arrows)

- Next fellowshipphase: play fellowship-cards, remove burdens and run.
-Play still needed (place on top of deck)
-Regroup: do the Gil thing all over and use Still needed/into the west-combo to remove all threats.

The shadow is pretty self-explainatory:
-Uruk for drawal and cycle
-Tentacles for overwhelming when opponent is ahead and/or double-moves

Sites for various reasons:
-a cycling one
-2 companion getting ones
-5 marshes
-mount doom keeps marsh in the (probably last) region.

So, that`s my first deck on this forum, what do you think…..




Fellowship: (37)
Starting:
11R1 1 Ring *The One Ring, The Ring of Rings
9R+14 1 *Galadriel, Bearer of Wisdom (RB)
15R19 1 FellowShip *Legolas, Of The Woodland Realm Companion
17S11 1 FellowShip *Orophin, Silvan Elf Companion

7R24 4 FellowShip Leaving Forever Condition
11U26 4 FellowShip *Uncertain Future Condition
18R12 4 FellowShip *Gil-Galad, High King of the Noldor Companion
18C17 1 FellowShip *Woodhall Elf Follower
17U10 4 FellowShip Namarie Condition
15C15 2 FellowShip Focus Condition
7C23 1 FellowShip Into the West Condition
11R17 4 FellowShip Elven Marksmanship Condition
15R24 2 FellowShip Spied from Afar Condition
13R26 1 FellowShip Take Up the Bow Condition
4U62 3 FellowShip Elven Bow Possession
17R24 1 FellowShip *Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas Possession
9R+26 1 FellowShip *Radagast, The Brown Companion
7C29 1 FellowShip Still Needed Event
15R55 1 FellowShip *Aragorn, Thorongil Companion
7U19 1 FellowShip Careful Study Event

Shadow: (37)
19P21 3 Shadow *Watcher in the Water, Many-Tentacled Creature Minion
19P19 4 Shadow Reaching Tentacle Minion
19P20 4 Shadow Strong Tentacle Minion
12C146 4 Shadow Strange Device Event
12C137 4 Shadow Breeding Pit Conscript Minion
11C195 4 Shadow Murderous Uruk Minion
11U197 4 Shadow Overpowering Uruk Minion
11R181 2 Shadow Determined Uruk Minion
12U148 4 Shadow Tempest of War Condition
13U177 4 Shadow Weapons of Control Condition

Sites:
13U190 1 Site Doors of Durin Site
11S254 1 Site (1) Pelennor Flat Site
11S238 1 Site (1) Expanding Marshland Site
11S249 1 Site (1) Neekerbeekers' Bog Site
11U246 1 Site (2) Mere of Dead Faces Site
11S256 1 Site (3) The Prancing Pony Site
11U235 1 Site (3) Dammed Gate-stream Site
11S255 1 Site (3) Pinnacle of Zirakzigil Site
15R193 1 Site (3) Mount Doom Site

[TheJord]

This seems a faster variation of the original deck posted when Gil-galad, HKotN was spoiled. It used Secluded Homestead and Agility but this is better.

[sickofpalantirs]

how do you get 12 archery?

[SomeRandomDude]

Methinks it has to do with Elven Marksmanship x 4 getting played back with Gil-Galad.

[Mc Tono]

This seems a faster variation of the original deck posted when Gil-galad, HKotN was spoiled. It used Secluded Homestead and Agility but this is better.

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Your right,
Of course this my deck is based on other ideas. btw I did not now exactly of Gil`s errata until last week.  With Gil`s errata you`ll need leaving forever. Nowadays when agility is empty then what? You`ll have to reinforce before that with cards you`ll hope to draw. That`s no loop. This way you can still clear your entire drawdeck using carefull study.
And this is standard of course.

and
homestead needs forests and rivers, also a possibility of course but in my opinion weaker. it takes a lot of cards to keep the sites river or forrest or you`ll have to bid high to let the opponent start.

how do you get 12 archery?

8 from the elven marksmanship
3 from the bows
1 from lego

[Elessar's Socks]

The Leaving Forever loop has been sitting here collecting dust, but this is the first I've heard of a deck that implements it fully, complete with a kill method (mass archery), and a Shadow that can survive the mass discard. Hat's off to you, Mc Tono!

Out of curiosity, what site were you able to pull this off?