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January 21, 2010, 07:39:43 AM
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macheteman

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Such a weight to carry
« on: January 21, 2010, 07:39:43 AM »
if i have the one ring, such a weight to carry, can i add a burden to wear the one ring. and then pay the cost again even though i can't use the effect? and again and again and again?

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January 21, 2010, 07:53:03 AM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 07:53:03 AM »
Yes. Have fun with your Shire Countryside deck.
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January 21, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 08:03:42 AM »
Indeed.

Same with Answer to All Riddles.

January 21, 2010, 09:11:16 AM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 09:11:16 AM »
When I saw this topic, I remember an old MtG Card, which says:
" (...): You may make the opponent next move. (You're opponent doesn't loose life with Mana Brun and you can't resign for your opponent."

Would be nice to have such a card in LotR, too!!!

January 25, 2010, 03:59:54 PM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 03:59:54 PM »
Yes. Have fun with your Shire Countryside deck.
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That can't be right.

If he's wearing the one ring he can't wear it again...

Just my opinion.

January 25, 2010, 04:02:41 PM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 04:02:41 PM »
No, he can't wear it again, but you can add burdens since it is a maneuver action.  We've had discussions similar to this before.
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January 25, 2010, 04:14:33 PM
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2010, 04:14:33 PM »
Well, then there should be some kind of ruling against this. ;)

January 25, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 06:15:21 PM »
Well, then there should be some kind of ruling against this. ;)

Why? He is paying the cost of something for no effect. This happens all the time. Most of the time it takes place with the playing of a card for no effect, example:

Maneuver: Spot an [Sauron] Orc, play Terrible As the Dawn (whether or not you can spot Galadriel).

Great for cycling...because it is a maneuver action, you are welcome to add a burden to put on the Ring (and then subsequently add burdens for no effect) as much as you want.
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January 25, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 06:33:55 PM »
Yeah, I use Foes of Mordor in my [Gondor] wraith deck to get unlimited exertions, even if there are no [Sauron] minions in play.

January 25, 2010, 06:57:14 PM
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2010, 06:57:14 PM »
Exactly. Pay cost, no effect. Why should there be a ruling against it?

January 25, 2010, 07:09:58 PM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2010, 07:09:58 PM »
Now I do suspect that if you use an action with no cost and no effect, that constitutes stalling. Specifically, I heard a ruling a while back saying that you can't use Sam, FC to repeatedly try to play Bill the Pony from your draw deck when you don't have Bill the Pony in your draw deck (Elven telepathy decks used to do this for the free shuffle). Presumably, events are okay because they have the implicit cost of discarding the event (and thus can't be repeated ad infinitum).

But as long as there's a cost of some sort, I don't think there's a problem.

January 25, 2010, 07:49:44 PM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2010, 07:49:44 PM »
Ha ha, Sam, FC for infinite shuffling.  That's funny.
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January 25, 2010, 07:51:08 PM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2010, 07:51:08 PM »
i think he was being sarcastic. observe the *knowing wink*

January 25, 2010, 07:51:29 PM
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2010, 07:51:29 PM »
I think it is fine.

January 25, 2010, 07:52:31 PM
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Re: Such a weight to carry
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2010, 07:52:31 PM »
I heard a ruling a while back saying that you can't use Sam, FC to repeatedly try to play Bill the Pony from your draw deck when you don't have Bill the Pony in your draw deck.

"Maybe there will be a Bill this time!"