V1: Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor

[Tbiesty]

How about Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor next?

[jdizzy001]

Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor (V)
Companion Dwarf
str 6
vit 3
Damage +1
Skirmish: exert gimli to make him str +1 for each tale you can spot.

[Tbiesty]

Someone will find this suggestion familiar.

Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor (V)
Companion Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Damage +1
Skirmish: Exert Gimli to make a Dwarf strength +1 and lose all damage bonuses.

[hyvee_doughboy]

Someone will find this suggestion familiar.

Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor (V)
Companion Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Damage +1
Skirmish: Exert Gimli to make a Dwarf strength +1 and lose all damage bonuses.

Like! There are a lot of times when you actually don't want to kill a minion in 1 hit (so you can fight it again in a fierce skirmish, etc). Also, sometimes winning vs an enduring minion (shelob) with damage+5 is a bad thing.

The generic +1 bonus makes it usable a lot of the time, and the damage removal makes it good for "interesting" situations.

[Gil-Estel]

Let's make seperate topics for all the cards, like back in the days when all the spoilers came out from Hunters block and they were debated, makes it easier to follow. Set on the One Ring? Well, I agree with Ket that the exertion for a threat is too easy. I mean, common Frodo from set 7 has to add 3 to get 1 threat removed. Galadriel with her own ring, aiglos etc, could easily get rid of any threats. There should be a limit, or an extra cost.

About Gimli, I loved his ability to stack cards under the deck, and hated the errata. It opens new options, rather than have him giving others strength. The common Gimli from TTT does the same thing and stimulates creativity, since Legolas benefits even more.

[Ringbearer]

Locked for now. We have to finish The One Ring first.

[Tbiesty]

This thread is now unlocked. Excellent! Let's hear your ideas.

[hyvee_doughboy]

Gimli, Dwarf Of Erebor
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Damage +1
Manuever: Exert Gimli, add (2) and remove a token from My Axe Is Notched and reinforce a token on Final Count (or vice versa).

Number of twilight to pay is up in the air...not sure how much is best.

[TheJord]

Gimli, Dwarf Of Erebor
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Damage +1
Manuever: Exert Gimli, add (2) and remove a token from My Axe Is Notched and reinforce a token on Final Count (or vice versa).

I would be reluctant to have one card directly reference another.

Gimli, Dwarf Of Erebor (V)
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Signet: Aragorn
Damage +1
Each time you play a event, you may place
a card from hand underneath your draw deck

He fits the theme, and makes him usable but not broken. I think...

[Tbiesty]

Gimli, Dwarf Of Erebor (V)
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Signet: Aragorn
Damage +1
Each time you play a event, you may place
a card from hand underneath your draw deck

He fits the theme, and makes him usable but not broken. I think...

That's pretty cool.

Here's a tweak so it's a cross between the current Gimli, Dwarf of Erebor and Gimli, Opinionated Guide.

Gimli, Dwarf Of Erebor (V)
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Signet: Aragorn
Damage +1
Each time you play a possession, you may place
a card from hand underneath your draw deck.

[TheJord]

I was thinking for my Echo of Luthien deck, so I can finally beat Dead Ones

[hyvee_doughboy]

I was thinking for my Echo of Luthien deck, so I can finally beat Dead Ones

Was thinking the same thing. Also, was thinking about perhaps figuring out something nasty with Underdepths of Moria to go with it on shadow....that could get really nasty...stocking mass numbers of Orcs under there under until you have the full swarm.  Not sure how powerful that could get, but I bet there's some abusive setup you could do with that.

[Thranduil]

Putting cards on the bottom of your draw deck is strange, particularly for a card. I know that Dwarf of Erebor did it, but that might be an even better reason not to do it on the V-card.

What we have so far:

• Tales
• Losing damage for strength
• My Axe is Notched
• Dwarf of Erebor-like abilities
• Opinionated Guide-like abilities

As I said, I'm less excited about reusing old Gimli texts if avoidable, and referencing specific cards isn't great—but on the other hand, if those cards are My Axe is Notched and Final Count, then I think that's actually fair enough.

How about:

• Tutoring? (finding cards from your draw deck)
• Enduring?
• Card draw?
• Event/possession recursion? (getting it back from the discard)

[Ringbearer]

Out of a purpose, I would vote against My Axe is Notched, This GImli hails from the FOTR block, while My Axe is Notched comes from TTT, which means in FOTR we create a blank Gimli, which I think we all agree upon, isnt a good idea. Not saying the idea is bad, it just doent fit a FOTR card.

@Thranduil: I would also not use Enduring on pre-ROTK cards, cause that block doesnt know they keyword yet.

(2) Gimli, Dwarf of Erebror (v)
6/3/A
Damage +1
When you play Gimli, you may play Gimli''s Battle Axe on him from your draw deck.

[FM]

First thing that needs to be pointed out, though, is that this is the very first Gimli, from the very first set, so it depicts Gimli as a "standard" Dwarf, meaning, "nothing to do with Elves". It could be said that putting cards in the bottom of the deck is "something in common" he has with Elves, which may have prompted him to not be so prejudicial with them in the first place. Just saying.
Also, giving Dwarves what they already have is not that much fun to "keep the game fresh". I'd actually advise tackling their weaknesses, although without making something quite so overpowered. Since Gimli came from afar to the Council, and he told stories about the dwarven lands and was the ONLY Dwarf available to do so for the Fellowship, I'd reckon his ability to "recount tales" would be considered remarkable - and everything he DID recount would BE a tale. As such, I'd suggest messing with tales, perhaps in a slightly different way, like:
" conditions with a token on them are tales.
Exert Gimli (or Whenever Gimli wins a skirmish - you have to admit, right after you dispatch enemies is about the best time to sit and break out a 'by the way, this battle reminded me of...') to place a token on a condition."
Again, just a thought, flavor-wise. Also, it messes around with tales, tokens (those tokens can be used in OTHER conditions, which might prove overpowered and need nerfing, but it's just an idea anyway) and pairs up nicely with other Dwarves and a lot of cards that end up being underplayed because they are not tales, thus not working well with the strategy a lot of the times (Lord of Moria + Gloin, Friend to Thorin, anyone?).