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July 23, 2008, 04:58:21 PM
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Re: "Killed" vs. "placed in the dead pile"
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2008, 04:58:21 PM »
Good, that's what I was thinking, but I wanted to make sure... Why did Decipher muddy the waters with adding "from play" to "discard" ???

July 24, 2008, 10:24:35 AM
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Re: "Killed" vs. "placed in the dead pile"
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2008, 10:24:35 AM »
Believe it or not, I think they were trying to clear the waters!

In Magic, for example, discard always means from hand.
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July 27, 2008, 02:03:58 AM
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Re: "Killed" vs. "placed in the dead pile"
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2008, 02:03:58 AM »
Schroedinger's Ent...that's a good one.

July 27, 2008, 12:19:11 PM
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Re: "Killed" vs. "placed in the dead pile"
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2008, 12:19:11 PM »
Maybe I missed something but Decipher also stated that the default meaning of "discard" was to discard from hand
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July 27, 2008, 12:45:27 PM
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Re: "Killed" vs. "placed in the dead pile"
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2008, 12:45:27 PM »
Uh... that's incorrect. The default meaning of discard is "from play." See Blood Runs Chill.
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July 27, 2008, 01:49:56 PM
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Re: "Killed" vs. "placed in the dead pile"
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2008, 01:49:56 PM »
Sorry typo I meant from play, I had just read the CRD to double check
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October 23, 2012, 07:44:46 AM
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Re: "Killed" vs. "placed in the dead pile"
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2012, 07:44:46 AM »
I suspect I know the answer to this, but let's see what you guys think:

Let's say I use Saved from the Fire and target a [Gondor] Wraith, to place that Wraith in the dead pile.

THEN I use Elessar's Edict, which states "If a [Gondor] Wraith is about to be killed, discard him and exhaust another [Gondor] Wraith instead."

Have I just prevented paying the cost for Saved from the Fire, and thus also prevented myself from using Saved from the Fire's effect? Or was the cost transformed from one thing to another thing?
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October 23, 2012, 07:47:01 AM
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Re: "Killed" vs. "placed in the dead pile"
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2012, 07:47:01 AM »
Yes, you have prevented the cost, meaning SFTF wouldn't be able to pull any cards.
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