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January 16, 2014, 09:10:01 AM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2010 on: January 16, 2014, 09:10:01 AM »
Here's an amusing bug:

At site 6, my opponent's Frodo died... but he was not allowed to make Sam the Ring-bearer!

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=sgtdraino$thm6ef6xaudbyrj0

And any word on my earlier report?
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January 16, 2014, 09:35:27 AM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2011 on: January 16, 2014, 09:35:27 AM »
Here's an amusing bug:

At site 6, my opponent's Frodo died... but he was not allowed to make Sam the Ring-bearer!

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=sgtdraino$thm6ef6xaudbyrj0

And any word on my earlier report?
That isn't a bug.
Per the Comprehensive Rules Document 3.0
"Many versions of Sam have a special ability that is a response action you may use when Frodo is killed (not corrupted). If Sam is in play at that moment, this allows you to transfer the Ring to Sam, and then he becomes your Ring-bearer. Sam is considered to be bearing The One Ring (not wearing The One Ring) regardless of whether Frodo was wearing it before being killed."

It will only trigger if Frodo was the ring bearer.

WRT your previous request/report - No update yet.

January 16, 2014, 12:02:24 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2012 on: January 16, 2014, 12:02:24 PM »
lol. Wow, I'm amazed they bothered to put that in the CRs, considering I can't really think of any reason why anyone would actually want to switch mid-game from their alternate ring-bearer to Sam.
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January 16, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
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« Reply #2013 on: January 16, 2014, 02:23:39 PM »
Escaping corruption would be one possibility.

January 16, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
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« Reply #2014 on: January 16, 2014, 08:39:54 PM »
Escaping corruption would be one possibility.

Seems to me like an unlikely thing to pull off. You'd have to have both Sam and that one Frodo you can use in play, somehow both still alive even though your current Ring-bearer is nearly corrupt. And afterwards, you'd end up with a Ring-bearer who has a crappy 5 resistance. Seems like a lot of effort to go to for not much payoff, to me.

Anyway, I've got a new bug to report:

At site 6 (or perhaps site 7) I wanted to use Don't Look at Them to discard 3 cards from my hand, in order to manipulate initiative... but Gemp wouldn't let me. Now, Smeagol was dead at the time... but looking at the text of the Don't Look at Them, it seems like I should still be able to pay the cost for no effect.

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http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=sgtdraino$tetcuivn7iiaisdl
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January 16, 2014, 08:45:01 PM
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« Reply #2015 on: January 16, 2014, 08:45:01 PM »
It was errataed to say "Spot Smeagol and discard 3 cards." Same with They Stole It.
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January 17, 2014, 01:22:06 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2016 on: January 17, 2014, 01:22:06 PM »
The trees are strong on the 8th site works badly... It should give 3 wounds but it seems that it wounds only twice and also it determines itself where to wound... http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=Raelag$8z5iqc8nge47xknv

January 17, 2014, 01:35:37 PM
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« Reply #2017 on: January 17, 2014, 01:35:37 PM »
It worked exactly as it should.

There were only 2 companions left, and both companions were wounded.  It does not say "Discard x Orcs to make the free peoples player place x wounds on companions". 

If you discard 1 orc, the free people's player chooses which companion to wound.
If you discard 2 orcs, the free people's player chooses which 2 companions to wound.
If you discard 3 orcs, the free people's player chooses which 3 companions to wound.

In this case, you discarded 3 orcs.  There were only 2 companions left, so per the rules, the client performed as much of the action as it could and ignored the rest.

If there had been a third companion out there, they would have had to have been wounded as well, but since there wasn't the third wound wasn't placed.




January 17, 2014, 04:08:40 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2018 on: January 17, 2014, 04:08:40 PM »
It was errataed to say "Spot Smeagol and discard 3 cards." Same with They Stole It.

Hmmm. Image on gemp needs to be revised then.

Any thoughts on the One Good Turn Deserves Another initiative issue?
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January 17, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2019 on: January 17, 2014, 11:18:23 PM »
It was errataed to say "Spot Smeagol and discard 3 cards." Same with They Stole It.

Hmmm. Image on gemp needs to be revised then.

Any thoughts on the One Good Turn Deserves Another initiative issue?

Yeah, it looks like if you have 4 cards in hand and repeatedly use OGTDA, it should cause you to lose and regain initiative as many times as you do it.
All cards do what they say, no more, no less.

January 22, 2014, 05:38:26 AM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2020 on: January 22, 2014, 05:38:26 AM »
It was errataed to say "Spot Smeagol and discard 3 cards." Same with They Stole It.

Hmmm. Image on gemp needs to be revised then.

Any thoughts on the One Good Turn Deserves Another initiative issue?

Yeah, it looks like if you have 4 cards in hand and repeatedly use OGTDA, it should cause you to lose and regain initiative as many times as you do it.

Indeed, I do this in real life to discard all conditions and kill all minions in the regroup with Brooding on Tomorrow and Hardy garrison.
Quite an effective loop :D

January 24, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
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« Reply #2021 on: January 24, 2014, 09:31:18 AM »
I've got another bug to report. I don't have a game link, but I think this is a pretty universal bug. Comprehensive Rules say:

You may transfer an artifact or possession
between your Free Peoples characters during
your fellowship phase by paying the twilight cost
for that artifact or possession again. (Minions
cannot transfer artifacts or possessions.)
Both characters involved in the transfer must be
at the same site. (See ally.)

At present, Gemp does not allow you to transfer artifacts or possessions between allies, even if those allies are at the same site.
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January 30, 2014, 02:43:48 PM
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« Reply #2022 on: January 30, 2014, 02:43:48 PM »
Shouldnt Gorgoroth Swarm be able to take a site even if you can't play a besieger from your discard pile?

Rules say:
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If the effect of a card or special ability requires you to perform an action and you cannot, you must perform as much as you can and ignore the rest

Had a game recently where I played him spoting 6 comps and another besieger (and a couple uncontrolled sites with no player on them)  but I didnt have twilight to play a besieger from discard and Swarm didnt trigger at all.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2014, 07:31:20 AM by Cthulhu »
My current Gemp Tengwar count: 133 + 4

January 31, 2014, 06:13:14 AM
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Re: Post your Gemp-LotR bugs here
« Reply #2023 on: January 31, 2014, 06:13:14 AM »
I've got another bug to report. ...  At present, Gemp does not allow you to transfer artifacts or possessions between allies, even if those allies are at the same site.

sgt you are right.

I just played a game against loga, and the Asfaloth I played on Galadriel Lady of Light would not transfer to Uruviel Maid of Lorien or Rumil Elven Protector at site 4.

I was going to try again at site 6 as their home site, but I did not get further than site 4. However, the rule allows transfers between allies at any site, not just their home site (although I know I could transfer Asfaloth to Arwen at site 6, I did that in a game earlier in the week).

I don't think the game replay link will help much, because clicking Asfaloth while on Galadriel just did nothing, no text appeared in the Game narrative thread [not even: "what, you are using Uruviel? You can't be serious!" ... But she's lovely, so why not?]

For what it is worth, game is at:

[Edit: deleted link, as the replay does not, er, replay]
« Last Edit: January 31, 2014, 06:17:54 AM by Valtor »

January 31, 2014, 07:01:06 AM
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« Reply #2024 on: January 31, 2014, 07:01:06 AM »
LOL!

Just FYI, for your game link to work, you have to get the "Replay Link" from your "Game History" tab. I'm guessing you tried to link the actual game window?
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