Suffered much loss

[Cw0rk]

If I take control of a site and I have Suffered much loss in my support area, is it still considered as a battleground or it isn't because the site is remove from the adventure path and placed in my support area?

[jdizzy001]

That's a good question, technically if a site is no longer on the adventure path, (and is in your support area because you control it), I think it would lose the keyword granted it from suffered much loss

[Elrohir]

A more common example is as the follow:

Arwen, Staunch Defender and Lost in the woods. <- (all forests you can spot, even those in the FPP support area)!
         ^                                                                                             Search for Fleet Footed
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(Only those on path)

So, as soon as you take control of a site, it is not on the adventure path anymore. So the answer is: It is not considered to be Battleground.

[Treebeard13]

Sorry, I'm going to disagree - citing this entry in the Comprehensive Rules 4.0

The game text of a controlled site cannot be used by any player.  Exception: The keywords of a controlled site still apply.  A player may "control a battleground."

Chuck

[Alazzar]

Sorry, I'm going to disagree - citing this entry in the Comprehensive Rules 4.0

The game text of a controlled site cannot be used by any player.  Exception: The keywords of a controlled site still apply.  A player may "control a battleground."

Chuck

But the wording on Suffered Much Loss says, "Each site on the adventure path is a battleground."  If the site gets controlled, it's no longer on the adventure path, and is thus unaffected by Suffered Much Loss.

[MuadDib85]

Alazzar is right. Suffered much loss won't work for controlled sites.

But Lost in the woods will work. (assuming you have controlled forests)

[Treebeard13]

OK, I finally found a definitive reference to whether or not a controlled site in on the adventure path.  CRD August 13, 2007: A controlled site, once played in a player's support area, is no longer a site on the adventure path.  So does that mean if the card were to have said spot X battlefields then do controlled cards count.  The rule I cited earlier would seem to imply that it does.  You are correct in that Suffered Much Loss specifically says adventure path.

Thanks - interesting....
Chuck

[Kralik]

Suffered Much Loss does give the Towers Uruk a definite boost... but it would be too much if it wasn't worded the way it is.

[MuadDib85]

Off topic: I use suffered much loss in an evil men deck built around whistling death

[Elessar's Socks]

So does that mean if the card were to have said spot X battlefields then do controlled cards count.

Should work, with controlled sites being both in play and active (as listed under the "active" entry).

[Gate Troll]

Suffered Much Loss does give the Towers Uruk a definite boost... but it would be too much if it wasn't worded the way it is.

And it's totally awesome in a battleground deck.