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December 07, 2009, 10:22:56 AM
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Suggestions for a cube draft
« on: December 07, 2009, 10:22:56 AM »
General stuff:
•   This cube is for 2-3 players.
•   The cube is movie specific (sets 1-3, 4-6, or 7/8/10 only), Reflections can be added for additional flavor as long as they do not introduce game concepts foreign to the particular block.
•   No alternate ringbearers!
•   When the draw deck runs out, the discard pile can be reshuffled and used as a new draw deck once.
•   Each player must build a deck of at least 25 free peoples and 25 shadow cards.

Each player gets from the 10 piles described below at random:
•   1 ring
•   1 frodo
•   1 starter deck (without the one ring, ringbearer, sites and premiums)
•   18 sites (two for each site number to choose from, where possible )
•   15 free peoples rares/premiums
•   15 free peoples uncommons
•   15 free peoples commons
•   15 shadow rares/premiums
•   15 shadow uncommons
•   15 shadow commons

These are the 10 piles:
•   ring – all rings from the entire Movie Block (sets 1-10)
•   ringbearer – all ringbearer versions from sets 1-3, 4-6 or 7/8/10
•   starter –  all starter decks from sets 1-3, 4-6 or 7/8/10, but without the sites, ring, ringbearer and premium cards
•   site – all sites from sets 1-3, 4-6 or 7/8/10
•   free peoples – rare/premium (one copy per card id #)
•   free peoples – uncommon (one copy per card id #)
•   free peoples – common (one copy per card id #)
•   shadow – rare/premium (one copy per card id #)
•   shadow – uncommon (one copy per card id #)
•   shadow – common (one copy per card id #)

Each cube includes:
•   50 free peoples rares/premiums
•   50 free peoples uncommons
•   50 free peoples commons
•   50 shadow rares/premiums
•   50 shadow uncommons
•   50 shadow commons
•   all sites and ringbearer versions from sets 1-3, 4-6 or 7/8/10
•   all "one rings" from the entire Movie Block (sets 1-10), including reflections

Miscellaneous:
•   The Shadow piles must contain at least 2/3 minions each.
•   The cards from the adventure decks should be marked for easy separation from the pile cards after the game
« Last Edit: December 21, 2009, 11:44:30 AM by ununtrium »
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December 07, 2009, 01:02:43 PM
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Re: Suggestions for a cube draft
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 01:02:43 PM »
What is a cube draft exactly?

December 07, 2009, 03:07:20 PM
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Re: Suggestions for a cube draft
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 03:07:20 PM »
http://www.decktech.net/lotr/resources/buzz.php?id=9540

Here is a cube made already.

A cube darft is a draft where you just take a huge load of cards and divide it in draft pockets. SO you can draft a decent deck without needing packs and all.

December 08, 2009, 04:59:31 AM
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Re: Suggestions for a cube draft
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 04:59:31 AM »
http://www.decktech.net/lotr/resources/buzz.php?id=9540

Here is a cube made already.

A cube darft is a draft where you just take a huge load of cards and divide it in draft pockets. SO you can draft a decent deck without needing packs and all.

Exactly, It's basically a fun way to do a sealed deck format that insures good cards are available and the decks are more fair. Sealed usually suffers from a lack of coordination or power and depends on a Starter (in LOTR) and it seems one starter is always better than the other, Cube gets around that by planning what cards are available from the start and includes a good number of strong cards that keep games interesting.

The cube cards are usually divided up randomly into packs and drafted. After the tournament the cards are given back, one does not usually keep cards from a cube -- it is kept together for future tournaments. And from what I've heard its a great format in SWCCG, I haven't heard much about it in LOTR.

December 21, 2009, 11:47:21 AM
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Re: Suggestions for a cube draft
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 11:47:21 AM »
I updated the concept. Please let me know what you think.   :up: or  :down: ?

Also, to get things moving further along, I encourage any suggestions for the various free peoples and shadow piles in FotR block ;)

Merry Christmas to all of you and your loved ones!
« Last Edit: December 21, 2009, 11:49:00 AM by ununtrium »
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December 22, 2009, 02:38:24 AM
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Re: Suggestions for a cube draft
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2009, 02:38:24 AM »
 :up:

December 27, 2009, 03:14:40 AM
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Re: Suggestions for a cube draft
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2009, 03:14:40 AM »
Apart from your general feedback, which is important, I would like to know which card you would suggest for the different piles.

A couple of issues I ran into:

1) I find it hard to include the weapons attributed specifically to one character. Unless you water down the aspect of randomness further by drafting "combos" consisting of the main character + their weapon etc., you could very well end up with weapons you cannot use because you do not have the corresponding companion.

2) It is quite hard to fill the uncommon pile, because the sites make up a large part of that category and thus limit the uncommon pool quite drastically.

3) I do not know a way around the starter problem. Some are indeed better than others, but then again there is always the chance that you pull the "wrong" cards from the piles anyway.

Maybe I got it a bit wrong, but I thought that "Cube Draft" means that players get a certain amount of random cards from a previously compiled pool of cards. To compensate we could always do some sort of open draft of the "open" piles (r/u/c) in conjunction with a random draft of the "closed" piles (rb, ring, sites, starters)?

By "open draft" I mean that players pick a certain amount of cards from the respective pile one by one by taking turns.

Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2009, 03:24:32 AM by ununtrium »
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