Smeagol vs. Ulaire Nertea and Gollum vs. Argument Ready to Hand

[sharkey]

So, Smeagol vs. Ulaire Nertea, DH... how can you spot a race that doesn't exist? If you want Smeagol to be unassignable to him, is that even possible? Or does his lack of race somehow prevent that?

Same idea for Gollum vs. Argument. Since you cannot spot Gollum's race, does that mean he has to be discarded, even if he is the only minion in play?

[Elessar's Socks]

The 8/13 CRD in the Archives sticky goes into this in greater detail.

Smeagol (and Gollum) do not have a race, so the text of Dark Horseman can't avoid assignment with him. Likewise Argument Ready to Hand can't discard Gollum, because he's not a minion of any race.

[sharkey]

So they are considered every race I guess. Cool! I actually played a game where all 4 of these problems came up... it was really random.

[Elessar's Socks]

Wha-where...? No race, not every race!

[sharkey]

I know, not actually, just considered. If it was no race, it would have to be discarded.

[Kralik]

Likewise Argument Ready to Hand can't discard Gollum, because he's not a minion of any race.

[sharkey]

So his race can't be spotted, and all minions of races that weren't spotted must be discarded. You have to spot his race to save him, but he has no race. Does that mean he gets discarded if you choose, say, troll?

[MuadDib85]

So his race can't be spotted, and all minions of races that weren't spotted must be discarded. You have to spot his race to save him, but he has no race. Does that mean he gets discarded if you choose, say, troll?

It says discard from play all minions of all other races.... Gollum has no race, so he cannot be discarded.

[TheJord]

This is specifically dealt with in the rulebook

Its not that his race cant be spotted, he doesnt have a race to spot

[sharkey]

Ya know, it would have just been easier to give him a race, like hobbit or near-wraith or creature or whatever. Oh well, I get it