Charged Headlong

[MuadDib85]

Charged Headlong

Can you use this to discard a Dernhelm's Blade from play, and then play the same Dernhelm's Blade that was just discarded for another wound?

[ket_the_jet]

You would need an extra copy of Eowyn's Sword, Dernhelm's Blade in the discard pile.
-wtk

[Thranduil]

No - its cost doesn't change its effect. I can't think of any examples right now, but there definitely is a prime one that may have been dealt with before. But the answer is no. Ket is right.

Thranduil

[ket_the_jet]

Great example is They Are Coming. You cannot play an Orc if it is one of the three cards you discarded.
-wtk

[Thranduil]

Yep - that's the one! Thanks ket.

Thranduil

[Gil-Estel]

Other good example is Ulaire Toldea, Black Shadow. If you play him with a Dark Approach, you cannot take the Dark Approach back. That card is in the void, nowhere to be found so to say.

[Elessar's Socks]

The "effect" entry has more details on exceptions, but the following applies here: "If an action plays a card from your hand (or discard pile) as part of its effect, then that card must be in your hand (or discard pile) before you can begin to perform that action."

I think GE's example falls under the "playing a card" rules instead, where Dark Approach is being played, but is discarded only after its effects are performed. Like he said though, Toldea can't grab the Dark Approach used to play him with his own effect.

[ket_the_jet]

Gil-Estel's example was nearly perfect for this scenario. !
-wtk