French X-List

[Enola]

In Standard Format, the 11R1   • The One Ring, The Ring of Rings is the most played ring.
So burdens come easily.

I don't think Gothmog is a good idea,
the set of Ambushers and Spearman has a low cost and you can toil the Witch-King with it .
Threats come fastly with Captured by the Ring+• Úlairë Lemenya, Eternally Threatening+• Úlairë Cantëa, Faster Than Winds.

[SomeRandomDude]

Really? I find the Great Ring to be vastly favored, but then again, that gives burdens aplenty too. But still, meta calls may be okay in some circumstances, but this is overextending, I think.

[Enola]

Sorry, Frenchs have their own X-list, so the meta in Standard is really more interessant :

- Steadfast Champion 7U49
- Aggression 8C1
- Memories Of Darkness 10U2
- Galadriel, Lady Redeemed 10R11
- Mordor Fiend 10C91
- Final Account 11C31
- Strange-Looking Men 11R100
- Demoralized 11U114
- New Chapter 13U154
- Madril, Defender of Osgiliath 15R64
- Bill Ferny, Agent Of Saruman 15R72
- Mountain-Troll 15R112
- Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas 17R24
- Orkish Lackey 17C80
- Prized Lagan 18U110
- Doorway to Doom 18U134
- Mithlond 18U136
- Steward's Tomb 18U139
- The One Ring, The Great Ring 19P1
- Ulaire Nertea, Dark Horseman 19P38

Courtyard Parapet & Orkish Smith are autorized.


Conditions in Standard don't survive for a long time , & 4 Brute is better than 4 Spearman or 4 Ambushers .

[TheJord]

That is a horrible X-list... Nertea, Dark Horseman is not X-list worthy, neither is Orkish Lackey, the 3 sites or Prized Lagan.

For Lackey, you said conditions dont last long in Standard, so why ban him!?

Prized Lagan is meta-specific and hurts Forestguls most, but they still hurt! And most of the time they add threats.

The sites I cant understand why you would X them.

Nertea, Dark Horseman is meta-specific and Bill Ferny is shutdown by LOADS of decks, anyone running Thorongil can end him.

Sorry, I'm really struggling to hide my frustration at this list

[Thranduil]

It's an interesting choice, actually. I disagree with the sites and a few others, but it's interesting to see how different places go for different things. How official is that X-list?

Thranduil

[Gate Troll]

Agent of Saruman? X-listed? Madness! Same with the Great Ring. And those X-listed sites? Why?
Sites hurt both players so X-listing seems unnecessary. 

[Enola]

This x-list is the actual official Standard French x-list.



Calm down people ,


Orkish Lackey : Because Orkish Smith is autorized, you could wound so easily any unbound companion in Maneuver  .

Prized Lagan could be played in every culture, so Forestzguls, Uruk Hunters, Wargs are broken.


By redundancy in Pathfinding,
-> Mithlond, who wants to play mass wounds ?? -> out of meta

-> Doorway to Doom + Steward's Tomb : Evil Men archery works now so well, we have to x-list them


Nertea could be assigned directly on Ring-Bearer,
in fact this minion rules too good in Forest Zguls or Sense of Obligation deck.


You're wrong Aragorn doesn't keep the Ring-Bearer safe, Bold Easterling & Courageous Easterling could get the job .


The Great Ring : too easy with burden removal like Hobbits.




Some cards could be changed but I think this kind of x-list is necessary.

[Thranduil]

Same with the Great Ring.

The Great Ring is obviously broken and should be X-ed or have errata.

And those X-listed sites? Why?
Sites hurt both players so X-listing seems unnecessary. 

The problem with those sites is that they don't hurt both players. You can make sure, for example, that Doorway to Doom always hits a fellowship on their first move and that your fellowship never moves to it (Third of the Nine Riders, for example) so that it hits their fellowship each time for 2 wounds and nothing else. Those 3 sites are all rather good, but I'm not sure I would have X-ed them...

Thranduil

[TheJord]

The X-list is for preventing unstoppable combo's, look at Expanded it stops Fruit Loops, Fiend, Infinite Gandalf... real harsh decks.

X'ing poxy cards like Dark Horseman is what has screwed this game over.

Lackey shouldnt be banned, unless Hate was banned. Hate seems easier to pull off to me. And Orkish Smith is X'd!

AND THE FREAKING POINT OF FERNY, AOS IS TO GET HIM ON THE RB!!!!

I would just not bother with Hunters block altogether

EDIT: Sorry enola I'm not angry at you! Keep posting...

[SomeRandomDude]

Ferny is NOT broken for crying out loud. Any deck that packs good condition removal wipes out half the deck. And hello, Ferny only slaughters decks that deal strictly with strength, which all suck anyways. Other decks, you need to slip a Ferny through whatever they've got, read, not that easy.

This seems top be a "Ban everything that kills Gondor" format. I, for one, was glad that Gondor didn't slaughter everything any more.

[Enola]

No, the x-list is the for making the meta balanced and preventing NPE.

We try to have the best diversity of decks in this format.


The x-list is voted before each big tournament when it is necessary to stop some killing-meta deck.


We autorize Orkish Smith, so Lackey is really dangerous (a minion with 2 vita & which is able to direct wound easily in Maneuver, it's broken).
Hate is an event and you can't take it from your discard pile.



In the FC 2006, some players were over all decks with a Ferny kill, it could be a real NPE in too many cases.

Ferny is NOT broken for crying out loud.
This seems top be a "Ban everything that kills Gondor" format. I, for one, was glad that Gondor didn't slaughter everything any more.

You're wrong, the easiest way to tank Ferny is Gondor with Footman's armor or Spirit of the White Tree.

[Gil-Estel]

but why then ban Ferny...he is a nice challenge to almost every deck

[TheJord]

If everyone was playing Ferny kill decks why werent you preparing for them...? Ferny is too easy to stop, I had to completely rethink Ferny by pairing him with Coldly Still and Driven from the Plains as everyone prepares for his beatdown aspect.

A few other players and myself find this behaviour very detrimental to the game. I admit Decipher lost the plot at the end ie Frenzy of Arrows, but I think they left the game in the best way to make it challenging. The only thing I dont agree with is R-listing Orkish Smith in Open, seems pointless

And WHY THE F has Mountain-troll and Shadowfax, GotM been X-d!?

[Enola]

We try to find a new stability in this format.


If we autorize Orkish Smith, we have to x-list Mountain-Troll & Lackey (it's a choice ).

Shadowfax, GotM ??  -> you really wanna play corrupt?


The problem with Ferny isn't that we can't prevent him, but the diversity of decks is going to take a real blow .

[Gate Troll]

The problem with Ferny isn't that we can't prevent him, but the diversity of decks is going to take a real blow .

How does it affect diversity?