Player's Committee.....

[Rathmaker]

Hello everyone.  I have been looking at my LOTR cards that have been sitting around for some time now, and have had the interest begin to spark on playing again.  I am wondering if anything ever came out of the creation of a Player's Committee (like SW and ST did), or is it still not off the ground at all?  If there has been one then cool I will have to look around for players in this area. 






If not, then anyone want to buy 35,000 cards?

[Jerba]

Let's make one.

In other words... no, there isn't one. And I personally doubt there'll ever be one sanctioned by Decipher since they have no incentive to do so. We should stop waiting and make one here.

Of course the problems lie in agreeing on a format to play. Ie: an X List has to be agreed upon, the blocks if we want a rotation sytem, what to do about the last three sets, etc. I would say agreement on these issues will be difficult -- especially with a lack of 'legitimacy' coming from no blessing from big 'D'.

My Proposal:
0. I guess we'll have to put someone in charge. By election perhaps? The big name guys on these boards will help with our legitimacy problem.
1. Agree on the current set rotation, if any. I'd prefer none.
2. Agree on an updated X-List, Restricted List and/or Errata to break the big loops, broken-ness etc.
3. Lets start by virtualizing Set 1 (about 20) of the old cards (from Blocks 1-3) and avoid making new images for awhile. This will warm people up.

Thoughts to consider:
A: Do YOU want virtual cards?
B: Would you fall behind a committee that starts changing things in the game?
C: How should the rotations be dealt with?

[HawkeyeSPF]

If you're in the Chicago area, I'm always ready to play.

As for the PC, it never got off the ground. There was obvious interest from the players side, but it never really got past that. The biggest obstacle at the time (and still today) is that Decipher is a little (ok, very) preoccupied with Fight Klub. It just launched, and they're understandably trying to keep the focus on that.

When things get a little more settled, it will be easier to get their attention and plead our case.

The other big stumbling blocks include the lack of sealed product available on the market (it was mentioned elsewhere that Decipher has none left in their warehouse), post Movie Block loss of players, the 3-5 year gap of communication (not everybody knows about this site, obviously), and the varying, very strong opinions of the players of how to "fix" the game. From my understanding, when the PC does get started, and it will, everything from Hunters, RoS, T&D and AE will be banned as the PC comes up with the best solution of how to bring them back into the game. Other preliminary ideas have been tossed out there by those looking to head up the PC, but it's way too soon to say whether or not those will be part of the final plan.

That said, if you've got ideas for the PC, feel free to email them to lotrtcgpc@gmail.com - it doesn't always get checked, as it's on the back burner for most everybody involved, but it will be reviewed in time.

[HawkeyeSPF]

My Proposal:
0. I guess we'll have to put someone in charge. By election perhaps? The big name guys on these boards will help with our legitimacy problem.
1. Agree on the current set rotation, if any. I'd prefer none.
2. Agree on an updated X-List, Restricted List and/or Errata to break the big loops, broken-ness etc.
3. Lets start by virtualizing Set 1 (about 20) of the old cards (from Blocks 1-3) and avoid making new images for awhile. This will warm people up.

As for point 0 on your list, and no offense to anyone here, but there are NO big name players on this site that outsiders would recognize has being an authority on or in the game. Probably the biggest name on this board is LCJK (Lee Clarke) and he only posted here to sell off his cards! Other than him, you had bibfortuna, a very very good rules guy, but he hasn't posted in ages.

Point being, and I know we all want someone heading up the game so it continues, but the only way it can be done right is with Decipher's blessing and computer files.

[TheJord]

I have to agree with hawkeyeSPF on this. We can open a dialogue with Decipher once Fight Klub is on its feet.

I think putting the effort in now, and having to redo it when Decipher have the time to help will just be annoyance.

[MR. Lurtzy]

All Hunter's block banned? No way in #$&*@! I will recognize that.

[HawkeyeSPF]

Don't worry, it'll still be there in Open and Expanded, but Standard will not contain broken cards. And as I said, it would be temporary until a way can be found to bring it back in w/o X-Listing half of each set or more.

[MR. Lurtzy]

I guess I will continue playing without the PC's rules then.

[Jerba]

Don't worry, it'll still be there in Open and Expanded, but Standard will not contain broken cards. And as I said, it would be temporary until a way can be found to bring it back in w/o X-Listing half of each set or more.

Mass errata with V-Slips would probably be necessary I'd guess. I'd rather see the errata's with printable slips than an X-List. Even though I've got 4 packs worth of Hunters block. HawkEye's right though, it'd be necessary for a little while or we'd have to wait a loooong time until the PC worked out errata's behind closed doors.

But MrLurtz's reaction is typical of what I'd expect with the creation of a PC. Some will not like the decisions no matter what they are.

[TheJord]

jerba I would like to hear your opinion on which cards need errata

[HawkeyeSPF]

Lurtzy: So, in your opinion, the game is balanced as is? It doesn't need to have all of Hunters Block looked at?

LOOKED AT  <---   This does not imply that everything will need to be changed. There is plenty in Hunters Block that I'm sure won't need to be errated even. SOME OF IT DOES.

You got it exactly right jerba - some people just do not like change, no matter how good the result will be. V-Slip errata is exactly what was discussed. My hope would be that one copy of the errata slips could be mailed, free of charge, to each person who registered with the PC, but I have no idea what the finances of the PC will look like, so I don't know that that's feasible.

[MR. Lurtzy]

Well I don't play standard, I play Hunter block, and imso it is quite balanced.

[HawkeyeSPF]

Dude, if you don't play standard, then the "ban" won't affect you AT ALL! Why would you complain about something that doesn't affect you?

If you're worried that the erratas will have a negative effect on Hunters Block play, I can assure you that interactions in all play environments will be looked at and considered before any errata is finalized.

[Jerba]

jerba I would like to hear your opinion on which cards need errata

Honestly, I don't have an answer. Unfortunately I am just getting back into the game. I have 4 packs worth of Hunters and thats it. I played during FoTR-TTT and right now I'm trying to catch up. I hate the new shadow cultures introduced in Shadows and the Hunter keyword. But obviously those aren't going anywhere do I'll just suck it up.
About all I know of the Hunters block is what people say about it. They say it needs repairs, I believe them. I could be wrong and thats fine. I just want the game to move forward.

[MR. Lurtzy]

So if you change cards from sets 15-19 , it won't affect the Hunter's Block?