Random card gameplay discussion

[Elessar's Socks]

For random thoughts about card gameplay that might not deserve threads of their own.

I'll start with Ulaire Toldea, Dark Shadow, which has been bugging me for awhile. Is his text actually a drawback? Not being able to assign to the same companion twice could mean he'll be left out in the cold when he could otherwise pile up on the Ring-bearer (if he's assigned to the Ring-bearer first). And tank-evading seems kind of iffy, since he does have to survive the first run through. Still worth a shot, or not worth the bother?

[SomeRandomDude]

Psh. Nertea pwns evasion anyways. Toldea ain't worth squat.

[FingolfinFinwe]

I think it can be decent.  I've seen a few games where the fellowship has one main beatstick, and if you can prevent Toldea from dying in the first skirmish, he gets to feast on some some weaklings in the fierce skirmish.  Also it can make things confusing for the fellowship player when facing 3 or 4 nazgul at one site.

[SomeRandomDude]

Then you use Nertea, not Toldea. Just play Nertea and spot the beatstick comp.

I've only used him once in a Sense of Obligation deck, after packing Cantea, BA, Nertea, and then Mauhur before finally picking him.

[sickofpalantirs]

wait...which nertea?

[SomeRandomDude]

The Age's End one.

[MR. Lurtzy]

I have won many games with the AE Nertea. He's one of the best nazgul out there, if you know how to use him. :hey:

[Elessar's Socks]

You don't even need to read his instruction manual; it's that easy!

I think the text of Ulaire Lemenya, Winged Hunter can hurt rather than help, too. Thanks for the free healing. Lieutenant of Morgul all the way, bwahaha! (Or Eternally Threatening / Assailing Minion for you folks who are making respectable decks.)

[CarpeGuitarrem]

I think the text of Ulaire Lemenya, Winged Hunter can hurt rather than help, too. Thanks for the free healing. Lieutenant of Morgul all the way, bwahaha! (Or Eternally Threatening / Assailing Minion for you folks who are making respectable decks.)

Not necessarily. Try using him against Durin III or Rohirrim, for starters. Bye-bye, possessions!

[TheJord]

Or making your opponent pay to play Treebeard again

[Elessar's Socks]

I think the text of Ulaire Lemenya, Winged Hunter can hurt rather than help, too. Thanks for the free healing. Lieutenant of Morgul all the way, bwahaha! (Or Eternally Threatening / Assailing Minion for you folks who are making respectable decks.)

Not necessarily. Try using him against Durin III or Rohirrim, for starters. Bye-bye, possessions!

For possession removal I'd sooner go with the various versions of Cantea, or splash Wormtongue. Much more efficient. Surviving to the regroup phase is already iffy (especially against Dwarves or Rohan)--but needing to exert as well? Sure he's not rubbing elbows with the likes of The Weight of a Legacy, but he's not someone I'd seriously consider.

[SomeRandomDude]

Wormtongue throws them all to your hand so you can throw all those lovely Dwarf toys back to play!

I like him combo with Shapes Slowly Advancing in a The White Arrows of Lorien deck. Sorry man, tWAoL rocks with him. Regroup- Lemenya + Shapes Slowly Advancing = 2 comps bounced + all possessions lost and then comps gone...oops. Pack full of elvish forest site control and some LitW and I see no reason he can't survive unscathed to the regroup, except maybe some mounts.

[Elessar's Socks]

Well, the idea with Wormtongue is to cause damage before the possessions are played back, plus he can complicate a double move.

Actually that SSA deck sounds interesting. More focused than a half-hearted companion bounce.

[sickofpalantirs]

that was a deck that was made on D when SSA first came out...one of their guys posted an article about it...

[Gil-Estel]

You don't even need to read his instruction manual; it's that easy!

I think the text of Ulaire Lemenya, Winged Hunter can hurt rather than help, too. Thanks for the free healing. Lieutenant of Morgul all the way, bwahaha! (Or Eternally Threatening / Assailing Minion for you folks who are making respectable decks.)

Lemenya is great in a deck that is built around him. Regroup return a key character to the opponents hand and after that, during you freeps turn discard your opponents hand with The White Arrows of Lorien. Nice!

[Elessar's Socks]

Yeah, thanks for the tip, Gil-Estel!

[lem0nhead]

There is a better deck based around that sort of combo GE and it uses shapes slowly advancing. Either you get a few tokens and win automatically or they return their comps then your elven freeps discards their hand. I use peril in the regroup to get as many gul out as i can for ssa. Muhahaha 

[Gil-Estel]

sure, but this was about lemenya....SSA is just nasty

[FM]

Wow... That's... broken. Beyond belief.

[SomeRandomDude]

Hardly.

Namarie, LG, Pallando, Grown Suddenly Tall, Sleep Caradhras, etc, etc.

There's no such thing as a broken shadow condition, it gets chucked instantly. Now on the freeps side...