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May 28, 2008, 01:09:55 PM
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Oil....
« on: May 28, 2008, 01:09:55 PM »
Where are we heading for? The price is rising, people are speculating on oil which means that the price rises even more. Is OPEC just messing with us, or is the end really near? What are the alternatives? And just wondering, what is gas doing per litre in your country/region? Netherlands €1,65 per litre, which means 2 usd at least  :-\
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May 28, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
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Re: Oil....
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 01:28:53 PM »
I read in the news a while back that President Bush visitid king Abdullah in Saudi Arabia, asking him to produce more oil, but he refuses.  Real great for our economy...and environmentalists prevent us from tapping all that oil up in Alaska, which is obviously much more helpful.  :-\

I've posted similar things to this as before, but here's a link that shows a video on how salt water could be used as a fuel:

The man's last name behind this all is Kanzius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kKtKSEQBeI
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May 28, 2008, 01:39:00 PM
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Re: Oil....
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 01:39:00 PM »
Usually try to stay out of topics like this, but.... :roll:

Friggin' environazis. I'm a HUGE supporter of protecting the environment (especially for a Republican :P)...my first degree choice in college was going to be Forestry (with the goal of being a park ranger or something) before I was basically talked out of it by my advisor.

Anyway, all that being said...we NEED to start drilling into our own oil sources. Relying on OPEC for our oil needs is insane. Half the countries in that group think we're all infidels that don't deserve to live, for crying out loud! ???

What's driving the sudden spike more than anything is China and India. Nothing against them personally, but their growing economies are sucking up TONS of available oil supplies, and it's not going to slow down anytime soon. I think eventually OPEC will have enough of an outcry on their hands that they'll have to increase production, but how far the prices go before then is anyone's guess.

It's getting brutal, but truth be told, we Americans have been getting it much better than most of the world for years. It's been well above $4, $5, or even $6 dollars in many parts of the world for a while now, and we've been real lucky to not be hit hard until now.

Doesn't mean I like it, though. Considering I drive a minimum of 75 miles a day (to and from work), it's REALLY hurting right now. :'(

Again, we have GOT to tap into oil in Alaska, off the coast of Africa, and anywhere else we know the oil is hiding. The environment can take it. It adapts a heck of a lot better than we do. Friggin' environazis.... :evil:
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May 28, 2008, 01:42:47 PM
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 01:42:47 PM »
I didn't start this topic on environmental grounds. Just to see what we're dealing with. And to see what everyone is paying for their gas. What do you have to pay for a litre of unleaded fuel?.....So I can figure out whether I am being screwed  ;) (or is that very bad language?)
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May 28, 2008, 01:42:58 PM
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Re: Oil....
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 01:42:58 PM »
Environazis.  ;D

They complain to an extreme degree drilling in alaska will do damage to the wildlife, but found that Elk and other wild animals stood around the oil pipelines keeping themselves warm.  That's the other side of the coin.
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May 28, 2008, 01:50:42 PM
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Re: Oil....
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 01:50:42 PM »
Check out this site. There are probably better "gas calculators" out there, but this one's quick and easy. It brings up my area by default...sorry about that, but I'm not sure how else to post a working link.

I'm "lucky" in that the "cheap" (HA!) gas on that list is right near my house. Heck, I could walk there. But then again, why would I walk to get gas...?

Uh, let that all be stricken from the record. End of workday rambling. :P Just...uh...go to the link. Yeah. Move along.... :roll:
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May 28, 2008, 11:01:40 PM
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 11:01:40 PM »
WHAT?!!! That means my gas is twice your price?! Dain, stop whining like a baby, or I'll smite thee!!!!!
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May 28, 2008, 11:59:50 PM
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Re: Oil....
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 11:59:50 PM »
Smite him, smite him!  ;D lol, just kidding, don't smite me!   :cpunch: 

The price for petrol here is averaging about £1.14 per litre (when I take the kids up to the Highlands for holidays in the summer, that price will drastically go up, petrol is always more expensive in the Highlands).  Consider that the pound is worth roughly twice as much as the dollar, and that there are roughly 3.7 litres in a gallon, and that puts the price of gas at around $8.42 a gallon here.   :P
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 12:09:40 AM »
Shieldmaiden, my heart takes a leap just seeing your name here again!!
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May 29, 2008, 12:21:33 AM
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 12:21:33 AM »
Thank you!  (where's the blushing smilie?)  I've been away for a while.  But now I'm back!   ;D
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Re: Oil....
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 01:11:03 AM »
Yeah good to see you again matey.

Yeah i filled my 50 litre tank up in my car last week and it cost me over $100 for all you yanks out there. You think you have problems! At least all our cars arent driven by ridiculously uneconimcal automatic 5 litre v8s! Crazy.
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May 29, 2008, 05:16:58 AM
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Re: Oil....
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 05:16:58 AM »
You see, you europeans can afford it because you have shiny new cars that get 60+ mpg.

We've got rusty old pickup trucks that get 8 mpg if we're lucky.

Even our average cars only get about 20 mpg.
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May 29, 2008, 05:24:47 AM
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 05:24:47 AM »
I get 25-30mpg but i drive a sports car to be fair, a lot of englands cars will return more than that but NEVER 60, good diesel engines get 55, best petrols maybe 40 mpg. And it still doesnt mean we can afford it. The roads here are jammed contsantly, our population is ridiculously dense and getting worse with crap immigration control, so you spend half your life sitting in queues wasting fuel!

But thats my point if all ur cars werent stupidly large engined and wholly un-econimical youd realise how lucky you are for the price you pay. Even the some of the fastest cars on our roads like the mitsubishi lancer evo X fq 400 can produce the same economy your car can NB!

And a side point you dont even get a decent power output out of your cars with giant engines! I was talking to NK and his 3.2 or 3.5 litre V6 produces less brakehorsepower than my 1.8 4 cylinder 190bhp toyota celica. HOW??? How do you manage to squeeze such lame power out of such potentially awesome engines. a 3.2 v6 over here would have around 250bhp and yours are struggling to push out 200, ever!
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May 29, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 10:05:56 AM »
AS I recall, the US actually gets most of our oil from Canada and Mexico these days. I think the Saudis are number 3 now. Probably part of the reason our costs are lower than everyone else's.

Heh. I remember a few years ago, some people in my debate league were advocating a 50c gas tax: "If the price is $2.50 a gallon, nobody will buy it!"
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Re: Oil....
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2008, 01:43:46 PM »
Quote from: Gil-Estel on May 29, 2008, 12:09:40 AM
Shieldmaiden, my heart takes a leap just seeing your name here again!!

holy crap!!! what a freak.
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