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September 01, 2009, 05:00:34 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2009, 05:00:34 PM »
I would not have Imladris as a site if you are using corruption.
Love the Lingering Shadow / Trap is Sprung combo. it rocks.
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September 01, 2009, 06:17:56 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2009, 06:17:56 PM »
Cut 2 clever hobbits and try to throw in some Naked Waste.
Also, if you maybe incorporate either Sam or Faramir, SoD, you can also run We Hates Them and it works nicely.

Maybe drop a Stinker or 2 for Hopeless/DaD. Add a Web to keep playing him, too.
Covetous Wisp is useless in a non-Wraith deck, cut it or try to incorporate more. But it will only cause clog. Led astray is great.
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September 05, 2009, 03:16:35 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2009, 03:16:35 PM »
Smeagol, Bearer of Great Secrets
The One Ring, The Ring of Doom
 
2 Where Shall We Go
1 Follow Smeagol
2 Gladden Homestead
2 Safe Passage
1 Fishing Boat
4 Poor Wretch
4 There's Another Way
1 Deagol, Fateful Finder
4 Naked Waste
4 Nasty
2 Don't Look at Them
3 Nice Fish
2 One Good Turn Deserves Another

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Dammed Gate-stream
Mithlond
Imladris
Fords of Isen
Anduin Banks
Anduin Confluence
Caras Galadhon
Anduin River
Shores of Nen Hithoel


Shadow

1x Orcish Camp
2x Strenght in numbers
29 cheapest orcs you have


My version of solo smeagol, giving usualy no more than 3 twilight when moving. I do always double moves. Bid 2-3 and map Imladris on 3. shadow is there only for Shores of Nen Hithoel to stop once if opponent is faster. Use classic combo follow smeagol + safe passage on rivers.

September 06, 2009, 12:56:43 AM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2009, 12:56:43 AM »
The exertions could hurt, but you do have nice fish. hope you don't run into archery or corruption. Deagol seems more than useless, unless I'm missing something
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September 06, 2009, 01:59:43 AM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2009, 01:59:43 AM »
He is useless, or he must have planned him to be the strength +1 for nasty....
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September 06, 2009, 10:50:55 AM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2009, 10:50:55 AM »
With all the conditions out, +1 is irrelevant. Could cut it for O Elbereth for a constant +1, or even a PATHS.
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September 06, 2009, 03:37:50 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2009, 03:37:50 PM »
Deagol is not useless, after resolving Smeagol´s skirmish, there is still a skirmish phase until both players pass an action but Smeagol is no more assigned.

Archery need loads of twilight of a good use, only bad matchup from archery is moria archery.

Corruption is same. with 5 counters max per site you will get burden very rarely.

September 06, 2009, 07:04:47 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2009, 07:04:47 PM »
Deagol is not useless, after resolving Smeagol´s skirmish, there is still a skirmish phase until both players pass an action but Smeagol is no more assigned.

I maybe wrong but..

As soon as smeagol's skirmish has been 'resolved' the skirmish phase ends.. because to resolve a skirmish means both players have already passed.

Which means if Smeagol is your only companion and he fights and wins or looses, as soon as his fight is over the phase ends so there is no chance to use Deagol.

Can someone please confirm this rule..?








September 07, 2009, 01:30:00 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2009, 01:30:00 PM »
Well you end by pass/pass Smeagol´s skirmish, but not entire Skirmish phase. That is at least my understanding of rules and in czech Republic we play this for years and noone have ever had any complaint about it.







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September 07, 2009, 04:23:18 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2009, 04:23:18 PM »
Well you end by pass/pass Smeagol´s skirmish, but not entire Skirmish phase. That is at least my understanding of rules and in czech Republic we play this for years and noone have ever had any complaint about it.

If there is no one left to skirmish after smeagol, wouldn't the phase have to end immediately?

Why would there still be a skirmish phase with no skirmishes left?


September 07, 2009, 05:19:55 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2009, 05:19:55 PM »
Skirmish actions must be performed during a skirmish phase, before the skirmish is resolved (moving to the resolution when all players pass on skirmish actions). If there is no one left to skirmish after Smeagol, there won't be an opportunity to use Deagol's ability.

September 07, 2009, 06:47:14 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2009, 06:47:14 PM »
Think of it this way: if Smeagol isn't skirmishing, and no other companion is there to skirmish, how can Deagol work? He can't.
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September 07, 2009, 11:29:39 PM
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Re: Solo Smeagol/Gollum Corruption
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2009, 11:29:39 PM »
Ok, I give up Elessar's Socks´s argument is enough logical for me.