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April 14, 2009, 05:29:11 AM
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Smeagollum

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Did anyone ever played this?
« on: April 14, 2009, 05:29:11 AM »
.. Or tried to play this?

Raider sitecontrol-Archery

In the old days I tried it once, but somehow it didn't workout that well. If I remember correctly it was to difficult to get a site controlled with the 3 minions which allows you to take control of a site. But never tried it after set 6 was released. Maybe it does work with Seasoned Leader...

April 14, 2009, 05:30:27 AM
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Re: Did anyone ever played this?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 05:30:27 AM »
it is just, that everything else works better...it is nice, but no more,,,normal raider archery or raider mumaks are way stronger.

April 14, 2009, 05:44:27 AM
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 05:44:27 AM »
dito: it costs to much TW and isn't effective in anyway. playing raider sitecontrol is as useful as playing mono  [Gollum] swarm. raider archery and/or direct damange is way better, although they aren't one of the best shadows either.
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April 14, 2009, 05:51:44 AM
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Re: Did anyone ever played this?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 05:51:44 AM »
playing raider sitecontrol is as useful as playing mono  [Gollum] swarm.

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Too much effort to make it work
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April 14, 2009, 07:45:35 AM
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 07:45:35 AM »
I know :( But somehow I want it to like it and to work... Somehow I would like it to use only raiders and then on site 9 generate 9 x 4 archery.... That should kill don't you think?

April 14, 2009, 09:45:26 AM
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 09:45:26 AM »
Your options are very limited. You have only 3 ways to control sites with Raiders. 1 of them is very pricey (8), the other is avarage priced, with reasonable statts and the third is cheap, but weak. Also you need to have quite some twilight to pull it off. Therefor it is unlikely to control many sites, and the question remains whether you can wait that long for your archers to join the party....
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April 14, 2009, 10:08:13 AM
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 10:08:13 AM »
wait, how do you use the sites to get so much archery?
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April 14, 2009, 10:24:57 AM
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2009, 10:24:57 AM »
just play the siege troop if you really want this badly. that makes site control in every deck... ;)

April 14, 2009, 01:55:20 PM
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2009, 01:55:20 PM »
southron archer is an archer and if you spot another southron +1 for each site you control. But if your opponent is walking to site 9, you can be at site 8, so you can control a maximum of 7 sites. So theoretically you can maximum add 8x4= 32 archery...still nice :D
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April 14, 2009, 02:25:36 PM
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2009, 02:25:36 PM »
I've tried such a deck in the past. With [Raiders] only. It never worked, as the guys said before the options to control sites are limited and twilight expensive or weak (I'm talking about expanded though, I've not tried it in other formats). Mumaks can be very effective with lots of damage and also archery works very effectively with minions such as Southron Archer Legion and •Haradrim Marksman.
I remember once I had fired about 20 arrows with these minons in play and anduin banks  \:D/
Poor teolixx was playing with 9 companions and I was generous with threats from the very begining which, finally, did their work 8-)
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April 14, 2009, 03:49:48 PM
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2009, 03:49:48 PM »
I also did a deck like that, which also never worked. Eventually, I tossed in 2x Southron Archer Legion, 2x Regiment of Haradrim, 2x Army of Haradrim, and more importantly 2x Ships of Great Draught. The idea was, if I couldn't the stupid thing to work, why not discard everything with SoGD? Actually, it worked better in the end because if my opponent moved on I could get use SoGD to pull 1-2 16 strength minions. Take that!  :P (Oh, and I splashed Grimbeorn in the freepeoples side!)
In other words, it's awfully hard to pull off. Someone probably has a working decklist for it, but I can't say it would be the best deck anyway.


April 15, 2009, 05:51:00 AM
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2009, 05:51:00 AM »
Vroengard is on the right track.  If you want to do control + Arch then you will need to run other culturs most likely to do the site controlling.  There are some Evil Men Minions that are cheap and control sites easily.... you could do something with them...

April 16, 2009, 01:48:01 AM
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2009, 01:48:01 AM »
Vroengard is on the right track.  If you want to do control + Arch then you will need to run other culturs most likely to do the site controlling.  There are some Evil Men Minions that are cheap and control sites easily.... you could do something with them...

I know... but that´s just the thing I don´t want to use any other race...

Build one and tested it and actually it worked out nicely against a dwarvendeck.. I only controlled one site, could have been 2 or even 3..., but already lost 2 southron archer´s.. so it wasn´t that much worth to control a site anymore.. Using seasoned leader helps a lot, especially when you combined it with Regiment of Haradrim . The cheap Soutron explorers maybe not help to control a site, but do help to play Regiment of Haradrim . Also they are nice with a southron bow. It would have been a kill on site 7, but let him escape so that I could reach site 9 :)

April 20, 2009, 08:57:50 AM
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 08:57:50 AM »
corsair bow anyone?
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April 20, 2009, 09:28:51 AM
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Re: Did anyone ever played this?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 09:28:51 AM »
Unfortunately that can't be used by the Southron/Raiders.  Can't mix the new shadow cultures with the old.