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May 26, 2009, 10:34:48 AM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2009, 10:34:48 AM »
Like Socrates I naturally distrust anyone that calls him self wise.....:D

Ah my froggy-friend... it was YOU who called me once like that :P

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May 26, 2009, 10:42:51 AM
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2009, 10:42:51 AM »
ah, the impression my words make....keep them in mind young padawan, all of them.....
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May 26, 2009, 10:45:08 AM
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2009, 10:45:08 AM »
ah, the impression my words make....keep them in mind young padawan, all of them.....

oh that little force-abusing dutch-frog... seen to much star wars :P
yap... I remember things very good...
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May 26, 2009, 10:47:22 AM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2009, 10:47:22 AM »
 :-? Another PC? How many do we have by now?

@Olorin: The Austria Format Rulings posted here were different than it is everywhere else. Bye the way: you never told me about changes...
Oh, and it was me who started a poll. And I do not think it was a mistake so far. Frenzy of arrows is a such poor card..

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May 26, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2009, 10:53:47 AM »
It's not ANOTHER one. We don't have ANY yet.... Thats the trouble.

May 26, 2009, 11:05:31 AM
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2009, 11:05:31 AM »
I know, but we have started several ones... like the white council etc...

Does anyone know contact adresses or homepages of Chinese or japanese playerships? They should be know too about our discussions.
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May 26, 2009, 02:33:54 PM
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2009, 02:33:54 PM »
You're right. Many have tried to do something. We need to start the process HERE. We at TLHH need our own format. And from there we can start on the erratas, bans, restrictions, virtualizations, or whatever. We are here, we care, we play, we are the only one's that will take care of us. So lets do it folks.

May 27, 2009, 01:33:01 AM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2009, 01:33:01 AM »
Wow.. didn't read one evening nothing and then those responses..

The only thing I want to do is make something happen which we are talking about for a very long time.. actually since Ages End.

So what I want to achieve is to bring a good bunch of people together (especially people who have a different point of view then I have). This must be a small group and from there on building up an organisation. When this is done I gladly will leave the pc and commit me to gamedesign & developping, because that's what I think is the biggest fun in this game: using immagination, fantasy and creativeness. I think I can do this job, but it's up to you people if you want it or not.

Do I have experience with forming committee's. Well sort of. In 1993 I became a waterpolotrainer (youth) and I build up a whole youth department. In 1999 (after my pupils became 4th of our country) I left this club and went to another club where I did the same. When I returned 4 years ago to my old club everything was gone (the whole structure I had setup, the trainers, the chilldren). There were no men and no womanteams. I build this again and now there are 2 men teams, one womanteam, there's a wpc, there are 3 under 12 teams. There are 6 trainers. But thing is I'm only good in starting things up in the first 2 years after that someone else have to continue it. And oh actually building up this departmen meant that the club was financially safed (though I'm a disaster about financial and economics).

So just tell me what you want? I'm at your service (Yes Gil: Pim. And no I'm no fan of the man, though I liked this sentence)

May 27, 2009, 02:29:03 PM
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2009, 02:29:03 PM »
Yes, there needs to be a small committee that is based here on TLHH. The legitimacy will come from having the TLHH big names attached in various ways. We have to have built in respect. There also has to be a product to show. Something to launch. A CRD would be great. Also, some promo items like deck box covers will give us something fun to give out: 
http://www.swccgpc.com/downloads/category.php?id=1

A catchy name would also be great, but it needs to show the roots here in TLHH. Who is with us? TLHH PC? You interested?

May 27, 2009, 02:41:54 PM
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2009, 02:41:54 PM »
I would be interested.  :up:

May 27, 2009, 02:42:34 PM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2009, 02:42:34 PM »
Reposted:
I suggest:

PC Chair or Steward (ala Gondor)   
Vice-Chair (or Vice-Steward)

Tournament Advocate -- In charge of Tourneys and ratings system.
Online Play Coordinator -- Works with tournament coordinator, or this could be part of Tourny advocates job, to organize online tournaments and ratings.
Rules Advocate or Rules Wizard, Giver of Council   -- In charge of rules questions and leader of any councils called to resolve serious rules questions: erratas, bans, restrictions, etc. Develops CRD etc. Works with the tournament directors on rules questions.
Players Advocate -- keeps the pulse of the players community. The official go-between from the PC to the players. Reveals the spoilers, runs polls, contests, etc.
International Coordinator -- Works with Tourney and Players Advocates to maintain and coordinate all events and reach out to all players' groups.


Behind the scenes teams and committees:
Graphic design team -- Designs the templates and finishes the V-cards, errata slips, creates the pdf documents for the CRD, rules, etc.
Design Team -- Designs V-Card sets and themes. Hopefully 3 sets a year.
Playtesting Team -- Works with the design team to playtest V-Sets before they are released. Can be done in playgroups or via SdA, gccg, lackey, etc.
Format Committees--probably a committtee for each format, to insure that cards are refreshing each format and that the formats are balanced.


I propose people can have positions and be in committees too, even in more than one. The important part is that work gets done.


May 27, 2009, 06:53:16 PM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2009, 06:53:16 PM »
Do we know referees who are still active? I know one, but sometimes I feel embarrashed when I say something here, because he explained me something and then after debating here it shows that he was wrong. So I m not sure if he would be an option. Besides that he's very lazy and I'm still waiting for a tournamentreport he would make.

Pls inform me more about Disco Stu and Hawkeye. I only know Disco from the Amsterdam tournament.

Hi Smeagollum -

As a player I started with The Two Towers set and was hooked. I played the game competitively both in real life and online tournaments until the players disappeared in my area and LotROnline lost official support. I still have all my cards, including a full playset of all cards through Black Rider (I have enough of sets 13 and beyond to make any deck necessary as well).

As a volunteer, I was a Rider of Rohan/dAgent by the time Return of the King came out and I helped judge the World Championships at GenCon in Indianapolis in 2004, in addition to events at ComicCon, Origins, and WizardWorld Chicago 2004. I was also recognized by Decipher for my volunteer efforts as a top dAgent Rookie in 2004.

I know the rules inside and out, and while I was never a playtester, I feel I have a complete understanding of the direction the game's designers wanted to go (Evan Lorentz and co., not Brad Defruiter). I am good friends with a number of the game's top volunteers, players, and playtesters from its heyday and can depend on them to support the game through rules discussions and design strategy.

As someone with an interest in the game, I would like to see the player base revived, through whatever means are necessary, be it a "reboot" or any other idea - WHATEVER IT TAKES.


So yeah, that's me.

May 27, 2009, 07:10:13 PM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2009, 07:10:13 PM »
+1 for HawkeyeSPF to be involved in all this. :up:

Playtesting Team -- Works with the design team to playtest V-Sets before they are released. Can be done in playgroups or via SdA, gccg, lackey, etc.

Just a note: of these three, only in Lackey could one add virtual sets easily. SdA has set names locked (some which are incorrect/unused) and certain quirks with crashing if two players do not have identical datafiles. GCCG would require the cooperation of wlk, which might not be an issue, but he would have to agree to any additions.

May 27, 2009, 07:32:10 PM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2009, 07:32:10 PM »
Thanks Kralik, thats good to know. Perhaps you just signed up as the online advocate?  :-k

HawkeyeSPF, I'm glad your dedicated to the cause. I hope Smeagollum taps you and your contacts.

May 28, 2009, 01:59:52 AM
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Re: New Players comittee
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2009, 01:59:52 AM »
Reposted:
I suggest:

PC Chair or Steward (ala Gondor)   
Vice-Chair (or Vice-Steward)

Tournament Advocate -- In charge of Tourneys and ratings system.
Online Play Coordinator -- Works with tournament coordinator, or this could be part of Tourny advocates job, to organize online tournaments and ratings.
Rules Advocate or Rules Wizard, Giver of Council    -- In charge of rules questions and leader of any councils called to resolve serious rules questions: erratas, bans, restrictions, etc. Develops CRD etc. Works with the tournament directors on rules questions.
Players Advocate -- keeps the pulse of the players community. The official go-between from the PC to the players. Reveals the spoilers, runs polls, contests, etc.
International Coordinator -- Works with Tourney and Players Advocates to maintain and coordinate all events and reach out to all players' groups.


Behind the scenes teams and committees:
Graphic design team -- Designs the templates and finishes the V-cards, errata slips, creates the pdf documents for the CRD, rules, etc.
Design Team -- Designs V-Card sets and themes. Hopefully 3 sets a year.
Playtesting Team -- Works with the design team to playtest V-Sets before they are released. Can be done in playgroups or via SdA, gccg, lackey, etc.
Format Committees--probably a committtee for each format, to insure that cards are refreshing each format and that the formats are balanced.

I propose people can have positions and be in committees too, even in more than one. The important part is that work gets done.

Souds good. Actually I would like that one of the people who's in a specific team get into the council als representative for that team. That will make sure that there will be contincincy if someone decides to stop. Because his team will deliver a new representative.

Do we know referees who are still active? I know one, but sometimes I feel embarrashed when I say something here, because he explained me something and then after debating here it shows that he was wrong. So I m not sure if he would be an option. Besides that he's very lazy and I'm still waiting for a tournamentreport he would make.

Pls inform me more about Disco Stu and Hawkeye. I only know Disco from the Amsterdam tournament.

Hi Smeagollum -

As a player I started with The Two Towers set and was hooked. I played the game competitively both in real life and online tournaments until the players disappeared in my area and LotROnline lost official support. I still have all my cards, including a full playset of all cards through Black Rider (I have enough of sets 13 and beyond to make any deck necessary as well).

As a volunteer, I was a Rider of Rohan/dAgent by the time Return of the King came out and I helped judge the World Championships at GenCon in Indianapolis in 2004, in addition to events at ComicCon, Origins, and WizardWorld Chicago 2004. I was also recognized by Decipher for my volunteer efforts as a top dAgent Rookie in 2004.

I know the rules inside and out, and while I was never a playtester, I feel I have a complete understanding of the direction the game's designers wanted to go (Evan Lorentz and co., not Brad Defruiter). I am good friends with a number of the game's top volunteers, players, and playtesters from its heyday and can depend on them to support the game through rules discussions and design strategy.

As someone with an interest in the game, I would like to see the player base revived, through whatever means are necessary, be it a "reboot" or any other idea - WHATEVER IT TAKES.


So yeah, that's me.

Sounds to me that you need to be involved!