Author Topic: Gandalf choke & Moria (Read 16852 times)

Knight-Who-Says-Nee · « **on:** May 23, 2009, 11:49:00 AM »

72 cards
Frodo OBH
With One Ring, Ruling Ring

Gandalf TGP
Glamdring
Narya
Wizard Staff 2
Bill the Pony 2
Mithril-Coat
Sting 2
Mysterious Wizard 4
Intimidate 4
Wielder of the Flame 2
His First Serious Check 3
Depart Silently 2
Deep in Thought 2
You Cannot Pass
Hobbit Intuition 3
Bounder
Thrarin DS
Gandalf's Wisdom 3

Goblin Runner 4
Moria Scout 4
Goblin Wallcrawler 4
Goblin Scavengers 4
Troll's Keyward 2
Cave Troll of Moria SotBP 2
Ulaire Nertea MoDG
Goblin Scimitar 4
Host of Thousands 4
Foul Things
Goblin Armory 4
Goblin Swarms
They are Coming

Site Path
Don't recall at the moment.

The fellowship is designed to chock and the shadow is Moria swarm.
I have used this deck for a number of years now and feel very comfortable using it. I has always performed well. I'm interested if anyone has any feedback to add.

Thanks

Cw0rk · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2009, 07:53:54 PM »

How often do you double move with this fellowship?

Knight-Who-Says-Nee · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2009, 09:57:26 AM »

It is very easy to double move at the start to site 3. Usually it gives out about 5 maybe 6 pool for the first turn. The double for the win (site 8 to 9) usually works out ok. Cards like Depart Silently, Wielder of the Flame, and Bounder can keep minions off Frodo and keep him alive for the last site win.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2009, 10:09:18 AM »

Ok. Maybe you could add 1 PATHS agains't Moria.

Knight-Who-Says-Nee · « **Reply #4 on:** May 24, 2009, 10:49:30 AM »

If I get a PATHS, I will try it. It definitely is a good card.

Cw0rk · « **Reply #5 on:** May 24, 2009, 03:04:44 PM »

Maybe add Relics of Moria for your shadow... You could drop 1 Host of thousands.

legolas3333 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2009, 12:15:02 AM »

i recommend Deft in Their Movements for double moves as you can spot allies as well as companions for it

Knight-Who-Says-Nee · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2009, 10:24:25 AM »

Thanks for the suggestions; I will experiment with these cards.

FM · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2009, 04:34:27 AM »

I have a bone to pick. Choke decks, by definition, play a very small amount of cards per turn, and I don't really see a lot of cycling, with a single They Are Coming tossed into a huge deck. I think you should invest in swarming, thus losing the Cave-Trolls, otherwise you might find your hand clogged in some games.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2009, 01:47:42 PM »

The vampire has a point. Many times I have been mocked for using They are Coming, but it has shown its quality more times than I can count. Clever idea for a Gandalf choke. I never would have considered a Gandalf Defender.

Tempest123 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 18, 2009, 08:15:53 AM »

Goblin Runner 4
Moria Scout 3
Goblin Wallcrawler 3
Goblin Scavengers 4
Cave Troll of Moria SotBP 1
The Balrog 1
Ulaire Nertea MoDG 1
Goblin Scimitar 4
Host of Thousands 4
Goblin Armory 4
Goblin Swarms x2 or if you want 1
They are Coming x2 or preferably 3
Goblin Backstabber x3

Here a fix on your shadow

FM · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2009, 01:42:35 PM »

I don't like the loose Cave Troll.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2009, 02:18:47 PM »

Quote from: Tempest123 on July 18, 2009, 08:15:53 AM

Goblin Runner 4
Moria Scout 3
Goblin Wallcrawler 3
Goblin Scavengers 4
Cave Troll of Moria SotBP 1
The Balrog 1
Ulaire Nertea MoDG 1
Goblin Scimitar 4
Host of Thousands 4
Goblin Armory 4
Goblin Swarms x2 or if you want 1
They are Coming x2 or preferably 3
Goblin Backstabber x3

Here a fix on your shadow

I'm confused, why are there 3 copies of they are coming. It's good, but not that good.

ephen · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2009, 04:36:35 PM »

They are Coming is great, cycling is always useful and sometimes you need to pull a Goblin Scavengers to draw a card and get things going.

Ringbearer · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2009, 01:08:09 AM »

They Are Coming is usually at least x2 in my moria decks. Since the scimitas give you hand extension, you usually can pitch some free peoples cards to gain that last minion needed for the kill.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:37:55 PM »

indeed, cycling is very ahndy, but you don't need 3 copies of they are coming. two is more than enough, play a goblin armory or another minion.

Gil-Estel · « **Reply #16 on:** July 26, 2009, 10:15:09 PM »

In moria you could easily use 3 they are coming, since the third copy, depending on what your opponent plays, can be easily discarded with the first one. Moria can be big, we all know and to have good cycling early on, is good.

jdizzy001 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2009, 06:44:53 PM »

I just don't see the point of using 3, but then again, I am a victim of the 30/30 curse.

neopium · « **Reply #18 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:04:58 AM »

Hi everyone,

I know this post is dated, but I found it recently and though the Gandalf choke part was interesting. I thus created a deck very similar to this one (but with the cards I have) and I am looking for advice.

Even though Gandalf can be strong in this kind of deck, he is not impossible de defeat, especially when its equipment does not arrive early in the game.

What would you advice to heal him ? (I only have cards from the movie block and don't want to mix them with post-Shadows cards)

Thanks

Knight-Who-Says-Nee · « **Reply #19 on:** June 18, 2012, 12:45:09 PM »

I'm glad you found inspiration with the deck.

To answer your question, I've found that Intimidate works very well. Instead of healing wounds you are preventing the wounds. I don't have this card in my deck but if you want to focus on wounds go with Barliman Butterbur, Prancing Pony Proprietor to reload Intimidate.

One big change I've made to this deck is dropping Hobbit Intuition and adding Hobbit Stealth. This should help keep some wounds off because you can cancel more skirmishes.

Iron Prime · « **Reply #20 on:** July 02, 2012, 12:06:31 PM »

This looks like a neat idea, and I am excited to try it. I was wondering why you chose the 'generic' wizard staff over one of the Gandalf specific staves... For the strength (vs vitality)?

FM · « **Reply #21 on:** July 02, 2012, 01:16:36 PM »

For the strength penalty effect, a choke deck is focused on getting Frodo to live, nothing else.

Knight-Who-Says-Nee · « **Reply #22 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:57:45 AM »

Quote from: FM on July 02, 2012, 01:16:36 PM

For the strength penalty effect, a choke deck is focused on getting Frodo to live, nothing else.

Exactly.

The text on Wizard Staff (2C29) "Skirmish: Exert bearer twice to make a minion strength -3." is to keep Frodo alive.