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June 10, 2008, 01:40:15 PM
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Re: Characters vs. Followers Name Game
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2008, 01:40:15 PM »
Agree with Thran. Note that the Saruman follower cannot be given Saruman's Staff, despite the fact that it says bearer must be Saruman. This is because of the rule that Followers cannot bear cards.

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June 10, 2008, 03:52:14 PM
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2008, 03:52:14 PM »
Ah, then what about whisper in the dark? Followers do seem to be able to bear cards.

June 10, 2008, 04:12:56 PM
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Re: Characters vs. Followers Name Game
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2008, 04:12:56 PM »
Whisper in the Dark overrides that rule since it specifically allows a follower to bear it.

Bit off-topic, but this reminds me of the debate over whether O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! allowed the Ring-bearer to cancel his skirmish (after the no-cancel rule was newly minted). IIRC the official stance was that LotR has no "Golden Rule" about cards overriding the rules. (So basically since O E! G! was printed before, obviously it wasn't supposed to work--but if it was printed after, it'd obviously be meant to?) The rulebook maintains "As skirmishes involving the Ring-bearer cannot be canceled..." as its reasoning, but eh... generally cards > rules.

June 11, 2008, 08:33:58 AM
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2008, 08:33:58 AM »
I have a feeling that Whisper in the Dark was a card they made without any thought whatsoever - mainly because of its total lack of cultural reinforcement, ridiculous combo with Servant of Sauron, and direct contradiction of the rules...  :clown:

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June 11, 2008, 08:38:37 AM
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2008, 08:38:37 AM »
Wait, you mean Decipher got LAZY near the end and made cards that blatantly showed that? Heresy!

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June 11, 2008, 03:05:36 PM
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2008, 03:05:36 PM »
Pft. Wish they'd done the same with White Hand Sieger. I thought taking control of a site was a requirement to play it. I was in the midst of getting the cards for an awesome Land Had Changed deck, when a post on CC finally set me right. :'(

June 11, 2008, 08:31:26 PM
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2008, 08:31:26 PM »
I thought taking control of a site was a requirement to play it. I was in the midst of getting the cards for an awesome Land Had Changed deck, when a post on CC finally set me right. :'(

That's what it seems to say... what does it mean, then?

June 11, 2008, 09:14:20 PM
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2008, 09:14:20 PM »
As in, you must have a site controlled before you can play it; I was thinking when you play it, you must take control of a site.

June 11, 2008, 09:27:09 PM
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2008, 09:27:09 PM »
that would be highly broken.