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June 30, 2009, 08:52:18 PM
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Dismay Our Enemies
« on: June 30, 2009, 08:52:18 PM »
Dismay Our Enemies seems like it has potential, but the ordering is important: Does your opponent choose a minion to discard before or after the wounds are assigned to the minion who lost the skirmish?

June 30, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 09:10:39 PM »
The opponent chooses to discard a minion before wounds are placed. I am pretty sure that it is handled like that.
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June 30, 2009, 09:14:11 PM
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 09:14:11 PM »
I'd say that since assigning wounds is a required action, that would happen before the optional action of playing Dismay Our Enemies.

July 01, 2009, 02:00:21 AM
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 02:00:21 AM »
Yep, ES is right. But the problem with Dismay Our Enemies is that the Shadow can prevent it, which is why it seems to me like a bad card.

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July 01, 2009, 02:59:04 AM
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 02:59:04 AM »
Costs 0, so if you're not putting out much twilight after Shadow...

July 01, 2009, 03:10:48 AM
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2009, 03:10:48 AM »
Costs 0, so if you're not putting out much twilight after Shadow...
And then you play against [Raider] or [Men] and 4 cards in your deck become useless... Not sure about it, like I say. There may be a deck for it, perhaps Twins elvents with few companions.

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July 01, 2009, 05:57:07 PM
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2009, 05:57:07 PM »
Seems like there are already a lot ways to discard a minion during the regroup which seems like all its doing since the shadow gets to choose the minion so they will choose a minion that's already skirmished.

July 01, 2009, 06:02:29 PM
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2009, 06:02:29 PM »
I think, it is a strong card. I really love it - and I use it 2-3 times in my FOTR Elven decks.

I'd say that since assigning wounds is a required action, that would happen before the optional action of playing Dismay Our Enemies.
Great! Then it is even better than I thought!

... since the shadow gets to choose the minion so they will choose a minion that's already skirmished.
Yes, but if you kill the minion you has skirmished, the card discards a minion. Incredible! Has anyone any foils of this card left?  :roll:
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July 01, 2009, 07:44:34 PM
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Re: Dismay Our Enemies
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2009, 07:44:34 PM »
Great! Then it is even better than I thought!

Probably best in FoTR block without particular Shadow cultures.

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Yes, but if you kill the minion you has skirmished, the card discards a minion.

Fight and kill a weak minion, then force the Shadow player to discard a stronger minion. The discarding could happen before it skirmishes. Think perhaps of a Moria swarm with Balrog... kill the wimpy minions and then play Dismay Our Enemies after killing the last one to nix the Rog before it fights.

July 01, 2009, 09:14:52 PM
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Re: Dismay Our Enemies
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2009, 09:14:52 PM »
Post the deck when you make it.
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